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Were the Lockdowns a Mistake?
Townhall.com ^ | September 4, 2020 | Michael Barone

Posted on 09/04/2020 5:41:36 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: Kaslin

Were the Lockdowns a Mistake?


Does the Pope wear a funny hat?


21 posted on 09/04/2020 6:17:38 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The political war playing out in every country now: Globalists vs Nationalists)
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To: Kaslin

the TWO WEEKS they originally said they wanted to get ready, were not. Everything else, yes.


22 posted on 09/04/2020 6:19:19 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009
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To that nagging question, the answer increasingly seems to be yes.

I stopped right there. First, it is not a nagging question. Second, the answer does not "seem". It is yes, and it has definitively been yes from the very beginning. There has been no question about it. Period.

Far too many people, including many Fearpers, seem (see, I can use that word too) to think it is a good idea to trade freedom and liberty for a false sense of security. It isn't even real security. They are still afraid.

What a pathetic way to live a life, being afraid of every little thing.

The cause of this is a reliance on government. Individualism is dead to many Americans. If you have someone carry you around for too long you are no longer able to walk. That's exactly what is happening. People do not take individual responsibility in many parts of their lives, so now they must take "collective" responsibility. They are closet socialist, many of them calling themselves conservatives. They just don't know how weak and cowardly they are. They are unable to stand up for freedom and liberty.

When I write unable to stand up, that is a metaphor, it's not physical, it is mental. They are weak in the mind. Weak in principles. Weak in personal responsibility. Weak in faith.

I have written many times from the beginning of this political hoax that people need to take personal responsibility for their health and safety. Certainly, if one has a compromised immune system they have a personal responsibility to extra precautions for many things, even the yearly seasonal flu. The ChiCom flu is no different. However, they should not destroy the economy, shutter businesses, wipe away people's livelihoods, dreams, and their freedoms and liberties.

We are not getting back the freedoms and liberties that we have lost. Every time we sacrifice freedom and liberty for security we permanently lose the freedom and liberty. We are always told it is only temporary, like bending the curve or to fight terrorism. We have been fighting terrorism for 20+ years and we gave up all sorts of liberties that we will never get back. There was another way to obtain security from terrorism and there certainly was another way to obtain security from the ChiCom flu. In both cases, we did not need to lose our freedoms

So if you are Fearper, shame on you. You are a weak coward, unable to take personal responsibility. You are part of the problem. You want collective responsibility. You are nothing more than a closet socialist. You are the enemy because you stole our freedom and liberty.

23 posted on 09/04/2020 6:19:56 AM PDT by ConservativeInPA ("War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength." - George Orwell, 1984)
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I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again:

COVID-19 was a test for America. We failed miserably.

I knew this country was doomed when I saw how many FREEPERS (of all people) felt a need to get on this website and scold their fellow citizens for refusing to shut down their lives and hide under their beds.

24 posted on 09/04/2020 6:21:08 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("We're human beings ... we're not f#%&ing animals." -- Dennis Rodman, 6/1/2020)
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To: Kaslin

Of course they were a mistake, an ONGOING MISTAKE!


25 posted on 09/04/2020 6:25:06 AM PDT by walkingdead (We are sacrificing America's youth on the altar of our own fear. And it is a travesty.)
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Were the Lockdowns a Mistake?

That depends...what was someone trying to accomplish? If the mission was to flatten the economy and small businesses, hang up the banner. MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!!!

26 posted on 09/04/2020 6:27:38 AM PDT by gogeo (It isn't just time to open America up again: It's time to be America again.)
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To: ConservativeInPA

So if you are Fearper, shame on you. You are a weak coward, unable to take personal responsibility. You are part of the problem. You want collective responsibility. You are nothing more than a closet socialist. You are the enemy because you stole our freedom and liberty.

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Well said and so very true.


27 posted on 09/04/2020 6:28:59 AM PDT by walkingdead (We are sacrificing America's youth on the altar of our own fear. And it is a travesty.)
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***Republicans are less risk-averse and want most restrictions lifted.***

I’m not so certain I agree with the generalization here. Besides all the Fearpers out there, I know plenty of conservative Republicans in my own real world sphere who are quite risk averse because of CoVid. They approve of the shutdown, masks, and social distancing, and have no desire to go anywhere or do anything without masks and social distancing until there is a vaccine. They think a vaccine is the Holy Grail. It will save all of us!

It’s not that I think a vaccine won’t be helpful, it will be. It’s that these people don’t want to go back to old normal without masks and social distancing. The media has convinced them that they won’t get CoVid by using a mask or social distancing. Now, if you never go anywhere anymore, you might stay safe, but is that living? To each his own, I guess.


28 posted on 09/04/2020 6:45:35 AM PDT by FamiliarFace
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by all information at the time, we were looking at 1% of the population to be hospitalized. that would be 3-4m+ people when we only have 1m+ beds. that would’ve led to potentially millions dying without treatment.

once we started to see the whole picture... with a much smaller number hospitalized... then it became apparent we could have skipped the shutdown.

of course, by then you have a political trap.

open up and let the chips fall where they may, and the dems would jump on every death as Trump’s fault. Stay shutdown until we get enough exposed to insure minimal loss of life... and the economy gets hosed... which the dems will blame on Trump

the real question that should be asked is...

WHY was 0bama funding George Soro’s lab to create such a virus??


29 posted on 09/04/2020 6:48:50 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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Fearpers? What are Fearpers, people that fear something?


30 posted on 09/04/2020 6:53:31 AM PDT by Kaslin
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History will record this period as one of the, if not the, most foolish endeavors of a supposedly intelligent society.

And history will largely blame Mike Pence for his failure to recognize that he had a tiger by the tail, and that his real job needed to be message control and not micromanaging the minutia of PPE supply chains.


31 posted on 09/04/2020 6:56:16 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer.)
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To: Kaslin

BOO!

How many Feapers jumped?


32 posted on 09/04/2020 6:56:56 AM PDT by dakine
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Big time mistake.

I was all political and still is. With covid infections and deaths declining the federal CMS and CDC are still ratcheting up restrictions.


33 posted on 09/04/2020 7:27:41 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Have!)
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To: cdcdawg

Yep, in the beginning we were bombarded with all of the horror stories from Italy, and that’s what freaked people out.


34 posted on 09/04/2020 7:29:41 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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The Wuhanic Plague lockdowns were not a mistake. They were intentional hostile actions by failed Democrat states in an attempt to force a bailout from productive states since the failed states haven't been part of the surging economy under President Trump since 2016 and they have no way of joining it either. Let THEM pay for THEIR financial mess.

Communist Democrats and their ABCCBSNBCNPR propaganda arm use the term "mistake" because no one is liable when it's a mistake but those who perpetrated this fraud need to be charged for EVERY death, injury, and bit of damage done.

Start with mass murderer Nursing Home Killer (NHK) New York Governor Andrew Cuomo who sent thousands to their death.

35 posted on 09/04/2020 7:30:30 AM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: cuban leaf

Is the Pope a Commie?


36 posted on 09/04/2020 7:30:45 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Kaslin

I’ve known, and all right-thinking people have known from the very beginning the lockdowns were wrong.


37 posted on 09/04/2020 7:36:51 AM PDT by helmetmaker
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NO, he is not. If he were he couldn't be a Pope. He couldn't even be a lowly Priest, because Communists don't believe in GOD.

Now if you had asked if he is a Socialist, I would say perhaps. Because I am sure Socialists believe in GOD.

38 posted on 09/04/2020 7:42:38 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: ConservativeInPA

Very well put. Thanks.


39 posted on 09/04/2020 7:48:28 AM PDT by lakecumberlandvet (Appeasement never works.)
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To: Kaslin

Yes, BUT we can never REALLY know for sure because we can’t go back and NOT lock down. No do overs.

The “I want it NOW” crowd could never wait for a herd immunity scenario to fully play out.

We are where we are, deal with it.


40 posted on 09/04/2020 7:59:41 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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