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To: robowombat

I didn’t know the Commander was responsible for holding the hand of everyone who left the base.


2 posted on 09/01/2020 7:43:47 PM PDT by yesthatjallen
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To: yesthatjallen

Yeah, there’s got to be more to this.


3 posted on 09/01/2020 7:45:03 PM PDT by rdl6989
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To: yesthatjallen

My background is from the Air Force and the base commander on AFB installations always seemed to be an O-6 Colonel — why a 2 star is taking the hit on this doesn’t make sense.


6 posted on 09/01/2020 7:47:31 PM PDT by DoubleNickle
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To: yesthatjallen
I didn’t know the Commander was responsible for holding the hand of everyone who left the base.

Doesn't matter. The army needed a scapegoat and he fit the bill, right down to his lily-white privilege.

7 posted on 09/01/2020 7:47:33 PM PDT by AlaskaErik (In time of peace, prepare for war.)
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To: yesthatjallen

An installation commander is held responsible for the actions of everyone under his/ her command. It’s always been that way.


10 posted on 09/01/2020 7:53:17 PM PDT by wjcsux (They are burning buildings and Bibles now, people are next!)
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To: yesthatjallen

Trump met with the family of one female soldier murdered awhile back
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/07/30/donald-trump-meets-with-family-of-murdered-fort-hood-soldier-vanessa-guillen/

But there were several other soldiers murdered.(men) Some had complained of sexual harassment.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/07/30/president-trump-meets-with-the-family-of-spc-vanessa-guillen-video-and-transcript/

The CT has more on the problem, and check out the comments.


11 posted on 09/01/2020 7:56:51 PM PDT by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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To: yesthatjallen

He apparently did not take the fact that three soldiers were missing and wound up dead seriously enough. My guess is that there are going to be subordinate commanders who will also be negatively affected.


12 posted on 09/01/2020 7:58:43 PM PDT by WASCWatch
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To: yesthatjallen

Nope he was just the poor dumb bastard in charge when it all came to light. The does seem to be a climate of dereliction of duty among the officers at Ft. Hood for all of this to happen on one base. Fostering a poor command climate overall.


13 posted on 09/01/2020 7:59:19 PM PDT by 31R1O
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To: yesthatjallen

Oh there’s more to this than that.....they don’t just change leadership rolls without a lot of evidence the base is getting out of control in one way or another.


14 posted on 09/01/2020 8:00:09 PM PDT by caww (Every politician should serve two terms...Only two terms!)
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To: yesthatjallen

I hear ya, but a dozen soldiers from Fort Hood have died on or near that base in the last year or so. No way he could take a more prestigeous command with that unresolved mess in the wake of his tenure.

The impression I get is that lower enlisted are preyed upon by their seniors (or bad elements around the post) and the command seems powerless to do anything about it.


18 posted on 09/01/2020 8:21:00 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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My stepson joined the Marines a few years ago. He was a complete screw up and I warned him they would be onto every game or scam he tried to pull. But he decided to mouth off to his Sr. DI . About 6 weeks into boot camp, I got a phone call from his Captain who explained what he did.

My first response was is he still alive and my next response was why are you calling me followed by he’s an adult and don’t call me to speak to him about his behavior.

They kicked him out 6 weeks later.


22 posted on 09/01/2020 8:34:10 PM PDT by shotgun
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It’s even worse. My Commanding Officer came extremely close to losing his job due to 3 Sailors receiving DUIs over a weekend (all separate incidents). It’s like the military thinks these CO’s demand that members due something stupid. It used to be that if a military member got in trouble, they had to explain themselves why this happened. Now it’s the chain of command who gets the blame and asked how did you let this happen. I’m so glad I retired.


24 posted on 09/01/2020 8:37:55 PM PDT by napscoordinator (Trump/Hunter, jr for President/Vice President 2016)
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To: yesthatjallen
I didn’t know the Commander was responsible for holding the hand of everyone who left the base.

Actually, if every action conducted by a senior officer to correct bad behavior is a guide, the Commander was responsible for punishing everyone in the enlisted ranks who didn't commit a crime after the second crime was committed. It's the only way to make sure the person's responsible for the next crime were punished. Diaper directive: one kid craps his pants, put the whole school in diapers.

28 posted on 09/01/2020 9:45:12 PM PDT by jz638
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To: yesthatjallen

He is responsible for what happens to his troops

Many of the deaths were of people who had made sexual harassment claims


33 posted on 09/02/2020 2:24:37 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: yesthatjallen

Seems like herding cats.....


38 posted on 09/02/2020 6:15:57 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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