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Solar Panels Are Starting to Die. What Will We Do With The Megatons Of Toxic Trash?
American Experiment. ^ | August 27, 2020 | Isaac Orr

Posted on 09/01/2020 11:52:50 AM PDT by george76

Most people seem to believe that wind and solar panels produce no waste and have no negative environmental impacts. Unfortunately, these people are wrong.

In reality, everything that humans do has an environmental impact, whether it be mining, using a coal-fired power plant, or even tourism. When it comes to energy and environmental policy, the real question to ask is not “will there be an impact?” but rather, “can the impacts be minimized?” ...

Because everything has an effect on the environment, it is important that everyone understands the impacts of all energy sources so we can make the best possible energy decisions. We are constantly making trade-offs in our lives whether we recognize it or not.

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Unlike other forms of electricity generation, like nuclear plants or coal plants, there doesn’t seem to be any foresight on how to deal with the waste that will be generated when solar panels and wind turbines reach the end of their short lifetimes. Remember, nuclear plants can run for 80 years, as can coal plants with proper maintenance and upkeep, but even the best wind turbines and solar panels will last for just 25 years, creating staggering amounts of waste products.

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solar panels are expected to generate 866 times more waste in the next 30 years than nuclear power has generated in the last 50. And unlike nuclear waste, which is safely stored on site, nobody knows what will happen to these solar panels at the end of their useful lifetime because solar panels are not easily recycled.

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Unfortunately, most people still don’t understand that wind and solar require enormous amounts of metal, and that much of this metal is mined in Third-World countries that have few protections for workers or the environment.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanexperiment.org ...


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To: digger48

We should send the wastes to China!


81 posted on 09/01/2020 2:01:32 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll Onward! Ride to the sound of the guns!)
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To: Dad was my hero
It's very simple. Your power company is paying you 11.3 cents for your unreliable electricity. They could buy reliable electricity for 3-4 cents.
82 posted on 09/01/2020 2:03:53 PM PDT by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways from Sunday)
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To: george76

Send them back to china, courtesy of the democrat party.


83 posted on 09/01/2020 2:08:51 PM PDT by Trillian
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To: palmer

When I looked into this it was for a home I was building in MA (Cape Cod). The way it was explained was as I did. A grid buried about 15 ft underground where the temp was constant and as the solution in the pipes picked up the heat it was exchanged (as you said) as it flowed into the home.

It all seemed simple enough but I didn’t go with it because the initial expense was exorbitant and I was told I would need auxiliary heating on the coldest of days.


84 posted on 09/01/2020 2:12:22 PM PDT by billyboy15
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To: george76

Wend it to Obama’s beach house.


85 posted on 09/01/2020 2:19:12 PM PDT by View from the Cheap Seats
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To: george76

I suppose they can place them all in deep underground man-made storage like all the spent fuel rods and other nuclear waste. But then there’s Godzilla...doesn’t he eat the stuff like candy?


86 posted on 09/01/2020 2:19:57 PM PDT by Patriot777 ("When you see these things begin to happen, look up, for your redemption draweth nigh.")
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To: billyboy15
The constant temperature on Cape Cod is 31+31+37+46+55+65+71+70+63+53+44+36 divided by 12 which is 50 degrees. If they said 70, they were lying. See my map. To take a 50 degree water source and extract 80 degree air from it, requires a heat exchanger just like everyone has at their house.

The problem with everyone's is when it gets cold they need aux heating on any of those days. But with a ground source at 50 degrees you rarely if ever need aux heating. An aux heater is 10,000 Watts which costs $1.20 an hour if you pay 12 cents per kWh.

The grid needs to be pretty large to keep that 15 feet foot depth from cooling. Or you go much deeper to ground water which gives you the constant temperature.

87 posted on 09/01/2020 2:21:16 PM PDT by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways from Sunday)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

And MILK comes from Safeway......


88 posted on 09/01/2020 2:23:08 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: george76

How about the garbage they had installed on the roof


89 posted on 09/01/2020 2:24:51 PM PDT by ronnie raygun ( Massive mistakes are made by arrogant fools; massive evils are committed by evil people.")
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To: dfwgator

Diesel fuel.


90 posted on 09/01/2020 2:27:45 PM PDT by VTenigma (The Democrat party is the party of the mathematically challenged)
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To: dfwgator

Diesel fuel.


91 posted on 09/01/2020 2:27:45 PM PDT by VTenigma (The Democrat party is the party of the mathematically challenged)
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To: null and void

There is another hidden cost to having solar in Calif......

The state REQUIRES you to connect to the local grid...

That seems to mean you have to connect so you can sell your excess power to them-——

True-—BUT when the grid goes down—either by intention or due to other reasons——YOU DON”T HAVE ANY POWER-—because YOU are connected to the grid. At that point, you need a full house generator.


92 posted on 09/01/2020 2:27:48 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: digger48

I went to few solar cells scientific conferences. There I was induced into couple insider secrets.
1. The solar cells barely produce any net energy. The amount of energy needed to produce, maintain and dispose solar cell is about the same amount of energy the solar cell delivers during its lifetime! That is why the solar cells are now only produced in China. It takes too much energy to produce them using expensive Green energy!
2. Solar cells are hazardous waste and method of disposing them is a part of the solar cell science discussed on these conferences.

But these facts are secretly guarded among only the professional in the field. Do not share them with the public, or we will be out of job!
Finally the main discussion topic of these conferences was always - call your congressman to give us more money!


93 posted on 09/01/2020 2:28:23 PM PDT by AZJeep (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0AHQkryIIs)
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bump


94 posted on 09/01/2020 2:33:06 PM PDT by foreverfree
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To: BBQToadRibs

Likely, she was committed and sedated to help her with her obvious mental illness.


95 posted on 09/01/2020 2:36:45 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp???)
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To: george76

Donate ALL of them to the Sierra Club, let them figure it out.


96 posted on 09/01/2020 2:37:24 PM PDT by eyeamok
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Natural gas (which North America has an abundance of) is a great resource. It can be piped and shipped efficiently and it burns very clean. I don’t know why the greenies aren’t all over it, that’s if they actually just cared about the environment and not their communist agendas.


97 posted on 09/01/2020 2:39:49 PM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: george76; All
Wait until all the environmental effects of electric coal car batteries is brought to life. Even India stopped accepting shiploads of those toxic batteries.

We have unused facilities (Yucca Mountain) for radioactive waste from nuke plants, but the phrase “nuke plants” is a dirty concept.

98 posted on 09/01/2020 2:47:36 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isnÂ’t common anymore.)
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To: palmer
Hence the past tense: ...California law said...

Took 'em long enough to fix that!

99 posted on 09/01/2020 2:47:36 PM PDT by null and void (The Left weaponizes everything in the service of tyranny.)
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To: george76

Envio-Nazis say “can’t see the environmental issue from my house.....”


100 posted on 09/01/2020 3:00:54 PM PDT by Lockbox
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