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To: bitt

“Rogers has reportedly met with U.S. Attorney John Durham multiple times “

Hmm, I take that as a bad sign. It sounds like Durham was giving credence to the Russia meddling BS instead of going after the Justice department spying on a Presidential Campaign.


4 posted on 08/30/2020 7:50:44 AM PDT by iamgalt
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To: iamgalt

This is horrible news. I thought of Adm. Rogers as a hero who stood up to the deep state spying on the Trump campaign. He warned Trump who then moved from Trump Tower to his NJ golf course. Everyone knows that Seth Rich delivered the Hillary emails to Assange. The Russians did NOT hack the DNC computers. Adm Rogers now seems to be supporting the bogus RUSSIA! RUSSIA RUSSIA! bullshit. The Durham investigation also appears to be going into cover up mode, protecting the halls of power from the light of justice. I hope I am wrong—but I am appalled and disgusted by Rogers’ interview. Is he still one of the good guys, or has h been cmpromised too? DAMN!


12 posted on 08/30/2020 7:59:02 AM PDT by View from the Cheap Seats
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To: iamgalt

It is indisputable that Russia meddled in the election. It is essential to an investigation to understand what each party did, and did not do. Trump and his campaign had nothing to do with Russia.


14 posted on 08/30/2020 8:01:59 AM PDT by bigbob (Trust Trump. Trust the Plan)
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To: iamgalt

I think the criminality was that the entire Obama apparatus was using false or exaggerated intelligence information to open a criminal investigation into Trump. I know Barr has stated in the past that none of what he has seen was enough to start a criminal investigation into a political campaign for the presidency. There was no smoking gun, and the only bloody knife they found was in Trump’s back. Obama and Comey set the bar far too low because they wanted to spy on the campaign, hunt for anything that might be criminal, ruin Flynn, embarrass Trump with selective leaks to the media, delegitimize his election victory and ultimately destroy his presidency. They accomplished some of this but not all of this. In fact a strong argument can be made that the Democrats stole the House in 2018 with these false Russian collusion charges that blanketed the media 24/7.

So if they used lies, or facts they knew to be incorrect, or concocted intel, then Durham can prove criminality. We already have action and intent from Clinesmith, also from the Strozk text messages, and the notes about using Logan against Flynn. They made up evidence to wire tap Carter Page and thereby anyone he speaks with in the Trump campaign. They signed warrants with the knowledge that the applications were false.

This was a concerted criminal effort to destroy Trump, by the Obama Administration’s egregious abuse of the law enforcement arm of the Federal Government. They lied to judges, fabricated evidence, leaked lies to the press, and engaged in a massive disinformation campaign against anyone connected to Trump. It was a Soviet style KGB effort to destroy Democracy under the guise that “we all believe in democracy”, so we cannot just thrown them in prison but our fig leaf of cover will be these criminal charges that we invent. These have been like the 1930’s Stalinist show trials.

“Show me the man, and I’ll find you the crime” - L. Beria

I am amazed that Comey walks around like nothing happened, when he even admitted to Obama that Flynn’s calls to Russia were legit. Comey committed the crimes under a general order from Obama to “get Flynn” and thereby Trump. Comey signed the warrants, they were lies, and he has to be held accountable. He cannot say, “he didn’t know”, because that is not an excuse, (especially for a damn presidential campaign) and second of all, he did know. This is what Durham is discovering in my opinion. How much they lied, what they knew and when they knew it, who were the overseas players that were dirty and fundamentally that no real intel ever existed. It will be difficult because intelligence gathering is nebulous, so Durham has to lock down that it was all a lie, and not give them a speck of light that there was a hint of legitimacy in investigating Trump. That is not easy.

It is all a black stain on America that this has happened, but the obfuscation from the media has been wonderful for Obama’s legacy. The real students of history will see this, as each emerging fact is getting worse, and they will realize that this was a coup d’etat, which, disgustedly enough, the major media not only ignored, but willingly played along. (Even today, none of the media outlets even squeal about being used by Obama, his FBI and the corrupt intel apparatus, for spreading deliberate lies about innocent Trump personnel. They have forfeited their journalistic ethics in service to a corrupt Democrat Party, yet they don’t bat an eye.)

It may have been Divine providence that saved the nation because the forces arrayed against the truth were massive.


32 posted on 08/30/2020 9:05:19 AM PDT by Titus-Maximus (The trouble with socialism is that you soon run out of other people's zoo animals to eat.)
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To: iamgalt

Have you noticed the lack of concrete examples of Russian meddling? Comments from Rogers to Congressmen are always generalized and vague when it comes to particulars. Just once I would like to see an article that demonstrated “the twenty ways Russia interfered in our 2016 election,” with nothing but specificity.


33 posted on 08/30/2020 9:58:53 AM PDT by Bookshelf
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To: iamgalt; bitt
"It sounds like Durham was giving credence to the Russia meddling BS instead of going after the Justice department spying on a Presidential Campaign."

Are you incapable of reading entire sentences?

The second half of bitt's sentence reads:

"in the Connecticut prosecutor’s investigation into the Trump-Russia investigators."

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The "Trump-Russia investigators" are/include the same cadre as the "Justice department spying on a Presidential Campaign."

You negative ninny noobs waste so much effort/bandwidth on trying to find something to bitch about -- that you are worse than useless in this campaign that is literally a fight for the survival of the USA.

WAKE UP!!!

TXnMA   
  

37 posted on 08/30/2020 10:45:16 AM PDT by TXnMA ("Deep State" = "Democrat Party + Traitorous Republicans" -- it's that simple...)
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To: iamgalt

DIRNSA is responsible for carrying out some of the FISA operations.


41 posted on 08/30/2020 11:47:57 AM PDT by PLMerite ("They say that we were Cold Warriors. Yes, and a bloody good show, too." - Robert Conquest)
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