[Oystir]

Clinesmith was never presented to a GJ. He was never indicted. He was charged in cooperation with a defense lawyer through a document called an “information.” In other word it was a plea bargain. His crime was well know for months. His plea is to ticky tacky stuff.

While the public may not know of a seated GJ, witnesses, reporters and attorneys certainly do know. Durham may not leak but everyone else does. So if there is a GJ it is one of the best, best DC secrets, which is doubtful in and of itself

[BlueHorseShoe]

Never said Clinesmith was part of a GJ. In fact he couldn’t have been since the news about his involvement was first broken in 2017.

[bagster]

While the public may not know of a seated GJ, witnesses, reporters and attorneys certainly do know.

Unless Durham and his lawyers met with DOJ in the deep woods in the dark of night, then the same applies to him as to a grand jury.

And there were no leaks.

You seem very sure there are no grand juries empaneled. do you also believe that there won't be?

And if so, what do you base that on?

Here is a nice article on the matter. Grand juries are mentioned.

Seven big hints Barr has dropped about Durham’s investigation of the Russia investigators

(excerpt)

Barr told Fox News’ Maria Bartiromo on Sunday that the coronavirus has slowed Durham’s ability to interview witnesses and use a grand jury if needed, though he did not officially confirm there was grand jury activity in the case.

Make of that what you will.

But I dispute your contention that if there was a grand jury empaneled, we would necessarily know about it.

Either way, there will be and there will be charge. Lots of charges.