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Black Homeowners Face Discrimination in Appraisals
NYT ^ | 08 25 2020 | Debra Kamin

Posted on 08/26/2020 12:29:42 PM PDT by yesthatjallen

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To: yesthatjallen

Without seeing their property how would a reader know anything but they didn’t like the results?

Ever see how many blacks let their properties get run down? “There goes the neighborhood” isn’t just a stereotype.


41 posted on 08/26/2020 1:13:04 PM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Have!)
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To: yesthatjallen
what's the tax bill say???
42 posted on 08/26/2020 1:13:34 PM PDT by Chode (Send bachelors and come heavily armed.)
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To: Rurudyne

“It was” ... darn typos!


43 posted on 08/26/2020 1:15:38 PM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: Rurudyne

Cities and counties use computer generated revaluations.

They could do it every year but most localities require a revaluation something like every 6 to 8 years.

Every feature about a home is a data point on a program. The locality uses qualified sales from an area during a set time period and inputs the info into the program - which spins around and issues the updated “value”. The localities use that info to set the tax rates.

The system works very well in large subdivisions with cookie cutter homes but can be way off on specialty homes or mixed older and newer homes in the same area.


44 posted on 08/26/2020 1:24:00 PM PDT by PeteB570 ( Islam is the sea in which the Terrorist Shark swims. The deeper the sea the larger the shark.)
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To: frogjerk
Appraisers can vary wildly. I’ve had it happen to me - about $40K difference within about 3 months - no work done, nothing different.

All it takes is for a few comparable homes to close at lower prices. As the newest comps they are given most weight in the valuation.

45 posted on 08/26/2020 1:26:32 PM PDT by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: yesthatjallen

Oh, come the f*** on. I’d love to see the address, as well. There are some neighborhoods there that are not nice that are very close to nice ones.


46 posted on 08/26/2020 1:29:59 PM PDT by dinodino
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To: yesthatjallen

I’m not exactly sure why we need appraisers in the first place. The market should dictate how much a home is worth. Pay the tax on what you paid for the property. I sold my former home in Virginia last summer to a realtor for $430K. Four bedrooms with master on the 1st floor, den, 1 1/2 car garage, ON the Appomattox river with large 2-level dock including boat lift! Appraised for $360K. Smaller house 5 doors down with no dock had sold for $435K only a few months prior.. Realtor who bought it knew she was getting a great house. For the life of me I don’t know what the heck this appraiser was smoking.


47 posted on 08/26/2020 1:31:55 PM PDT by Army ret QM
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To: yesthatjallen
Obviously this didn't happen in a state where your city, county, state, and school system taxes are tied to home value!

If I thought there was a chance in hell this would work down here in Texas, I dye my face with black shoe polish and do my best Amos and Andy imitation,

48 posted on 08/26/2020 1:32:12 PM PDT by I cannot think of a name
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Yep this sounds like manufactured outrage.

It doesn’t to me. It happens to (white) female homeowners, female proprietors, female car buyers. Stands to reason it also happens to black homeowners. Something is manufactured outrage if there is no quantifiable result over something like an insensitive remark; but this is about a lot of money, too much to be simply a matter of evaluator variation in a neighborhood with that range of comparable values.

49 posted on 08/26/2020 1:37:57 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("When you open your heart to patriotism, there is no room for prejudice." --Donald Trump)
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To: yesthatjallen

Having sold RE for thirty years, it is pretty obvious to me what happened. Another appraisal was ordered, prompted by a furious homeowner threatening a civil rights lawsuit and discrimination against the mortgage company. Then the attorney homeowner thought she would be clever and move pics around to confirm her paranoia. Having been present at many, many appraisals, I can tell you right now, appraisers do not care what pictures are in the house, probably don’t even look. They are in and out quickly doing general condition, etc, then do most of their property values based on neighborhood comparatives in their offices.


50 posted on 08/26/2020 1:51:28 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: Jewbacca

Unless you are homeowner, business owner, taxpayer, or hard worker.

The black folks mentioned in the article are homeowners.

51 posted on 08/26/2020 1:54:41 PM PDT by FormerFRLurker (Keep calm and vote your conscience.)
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To: Skywise

“That’s not a valid experiment.

Appraisers can vary wildly and while it’s possible the first one might have been raciss the mere fact that she called out a 2nd appraiser and probs it invoked racism on the call could’ve meant the 2nd appraiser was ordered to give an above average appraisal....”
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Absolutely true. All banks and lenders know at least one appraiser who will “listen” when the lender lets them know that there’s a target that they’d like to be “hit”. Such accommodating appraisers thought process likely begins with “well, it’s their money”.


52 posted on 08/26/2020 1:59:35 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: yesthatjallen

This is garbage reporting. When the laws were changed due to Dodd-Frank long ago the banks were REQUIRED to use appraisers from other sources and oft times NOT local ones. I had a city appraiser come out to my country home and ruined my home value with their ridiculous approach and pathetic “comps” used. This is just the NYT trying to stoke racism claims to assist in the “systemic” false narrative.


53 posted on 08/26/2020 2:10:12 PM PDT by ICE-FLYER (God bless and keep the United States of America)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

In 42 years of commercial lending I have read hundreds of residential and commercial appraisals. You have to read them and assess them for accuracy and logic. Never be afraid to challenge an appraiser on their conclusion, they are infallible.


54 posted on 08/26/2020 2:37:24 PM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: VastRWCon

That’s always the case. Facts don’t matter. Recently insurance companies were badgered by Consumer Reports and others into charging the same rates for insurance in ghetto areas as they do elsewhere. Never mind that the risks are substantially higher. It had to be discrimination, right?


55 posted on 08/26/2020 5:14:47 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX (“It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future.” ― Yogi Berra)
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