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Trump to Republicans: Don’t put marijuana on the ballot at the same time you’re running
Chicago Tribune ^ | AUG 19, 2020 | BRENDAN BURES

Posted on 08/23/2020 2:20:15 PM PDT by NobleFree

President Donald Trump hosted a campaign rally in Oshkosh, Wisconsin, the same night the Democratic National Convention was scheduled to kick off in Milwaukee. While Democrats instead opted for a virtual conference to avoid spreading the coronavirus, Trump drew a crowd of at least 1,000 people.

In off-the-cuff remarks, Trump suggested to Republicans that if they wanted to win elections, they had to keep cannabis legalization off the ballot. Though the Trump Administration has attacked cannabis reform in behind-closed-doors proceedings and by blocking legislative action, this is the first time the President has made negative comments about cannabis in public. “The next time you run please don’t put marijuana on the ballot at the same time you’re running,” Trump said at the rally. “You brought out like a million people that nobody ever knew were coming out.”

The comments were directed at former Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker, who was among the crowd and was ousted in the 2018 midterm election by Democratic challenger and current Gov. Tony Evers. But the 2018 gubernatorial race was heated with just over one percentage point of total votes separating Evers and Walker.

However, statewide legalization wasn't on the Wisconsin ballot in 2018. Instead a number of local advisory questions appeared in 16 counties, which all voted affirmatively they would support recreational or medical cannabis reform. But these voter approvals were nonbinding and only serve to gauge public sentiment on a given topic.

These ballot measures were placed there by elected officials in those individual counties. Walker had no role in placing them on the ballot, as Trump suggested. Data suggests those measures may have tipped the gubernatorial race Evers' favor. Official results show Evers gained significant votes in those 16 counties [...]

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: bidensdopers; cannabis; cartels; felons; humantrafficking; marijuana; medicalmarijuana; nannystate; nevertrump; nevertrumper; nevertrumpers; oshkosh; pot; prohibition; reefermadness; rightstatists; scottwalker; tonyevers; trumpwinsagain; wisconsin; wod
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To: NobleFree

You stoners are fun to screw with. You don’t make much sense but it is interesting.


61 posted on 08/23/2020 3:06:40 PM PDT by shelterguy
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To: Guenevere

What studies have shown is that users of harder drugs usually previously used pot - and alcohol, and tobacco; either they’re all gateway drugs and should be banned, or none are.


62 posted on 08/23/2020 3:06:57 PM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: shelterguy
What a cowardly nonresponse.
63 posted on 08/23/2020 3:07:26 PM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: NobleFree

Pot states have turned into sh*tholes with rotten brains for voters. I get the libertarian point but the experiment is a FAILURE.


64 posted on 08/23/2020 3:07:44 PM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: Gay State Conservative
Pot is a gateway drug.

You're right. I know a guy who shut the gate on alcohol when he took up pot. In fact he quit tobacco, (Took up vaping) and completely ended his alcohol addiction. He did this because he had 2 drunk driving arrest within 4 years. When he was a daily drunk, he was mess. Now, not so much. It probably saved his life.

65 posted on 08/23/2020 3:08:44 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: shanover
Pot states have turned into sh*tholes with rotten brains for voters. I get the libertarian point but the experiment is a FAILURE.

You have evidence that legalization caused this - or made the trend worse? Let's see it.

66 posted on 08/23/2020 3:08:44 PM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: shelterguy; NobleFree

NobleFree destroyed you in this exchange. Anyone can read back.


67 posted on 08/23/2020 3:10:41 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: pnut22

How is it libertarian to legalize marijuana when people who work are going to subsidize the marijuana users?


68 posted on 08/23/2020 3:11:10 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway
How is it libertarian to legalize marijuana when people who work are going to subsidize the marijuana users?

How is it libertarian to keep alcohol legal when people who work are subsidizing the alcohol users? Is it libertarian to ban alcohol and marijuana?

69 posted on 08/23/2020 3:14:59 PM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: NobleFree

I don’t waste much time on stoner debates. I worked in the construction biz for over 40 years and could go on for hours with the stories many of them told me regarding their time in prison for drug crimes. Some for possession. some for armed robbery, burglary etc because they needed money for their addiction or to pay off dealers.

Of course you probably could share some stories you read on the internets.

Drug use is destroying our society. You can justify it if you want.


70 posted on 08/23/2020 3:16:10 PM PDT by shelterguy
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To: dragnet2

Party on, Cheech.


71 posted on 08/23/2020 3:17:41 PM PDT by shelterguy
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To: shelterguy
Some for possession.

Which is no more a wrong than possession of alcohol.

some for armed robbery, burglary etc because they needed money for their addiction or to pay off dealers.

Which basic economics says is because criminalization drives up the price.

Drug use is destroying our society.

No more so than alcohol use - and less so than criminalization, whose primary effect is to give violent criminals a monopoly on that sizeable market.

72 posted on 08/23/2020 3:19:19 PM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: shelterguy

Brilliant response! Pretend you somehow know me, call names and make stuff up when it’s inordinately clear, you have no clue in this matter.

If anyone here is intoxicated, I’d guess it would be you.


73 posted on 08/23/2020 3:20:11 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: NobleFree

The roll out to marijuana users it’s much more than for alcohol users. I will also only vote to legalize marijuana if the government doesn’t get $0.01 in tax money from it. That’s just a recipe for turning the government into a cartel.


74 posted on 08/23/2020 3:21:09 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: NobleFree

Alcohol also isn’t a religion like marijuana is. You can talk to an alcohol or cocaine or whatever kind of drug user and they don’t care if you insult that drug. But marijuana users get angry.


75 posted on 08/23/2020 3:22:01 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: NobleFree

The crowd was planned for 1,000, but they let in another 500 before they started turning people away. I was there. The airplane hanger was in unairconditioned and the temperature was 115 outside, but Trump supporters came anyway.


76 posted on 08/23/2020 3:22:32 PM PDT by Savage Rider
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To: NobleFree

I was working at a job last year and I had a coworker who was eating edibles all day long. So I ended up having to do a lot of extra work and correct a lot of stupid mistakes.


77 posted on 08/23/2020 3:22:52 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: dragnet2

“””If anyone here is intoxicated, I’d guess it would be you””

I do not drink and I don’t do drugs. I don’t feel the need to use mind altering substances.


78 posted on 08/23/2020 3:23:55 PM PDT by shelterguy
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To: ASA Vet
RE John James:

I had a great chance to get to know him at the start of the 2018 campaign. We’re both pilots, both military; and more. He’s a great leader.

I’ve moved back to Florida, and out of touch. Thanks for the note.

79 posted on 08/23/2020 3:23:57 PM PDT by Ace's Dad (Trump 2020!)
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To: nickcarraway
How is it libertarian to keep alcohol legal when people who work are subsidizing the alcohol users? Is it libertarian to ban alcohol and marijuana?

The roll out to marijuana users it’s much more than for alcohol users.

Would you please repeat that in English? Thanks in advance!

I will also only vote to legalize marijuana if the government doesn’t get $0.01 in tax money from it. That’s just a recipe for turning the government into a cartel.

So you also want alcohol made illegal unless government stops taxing it, correct?

80 posted on 08/23/2020 3:25:41 PM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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