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To: Ben Dover; LucyT
You can start my views with the proposition that a person should not be eligible to serve as president without a long term familial commitment beginning with full citizenship at birth to our country.

That said, we live in a country of law and the final word on this issue is the Supreme Court of the United States.

Absent this issue in a Presidential campaign turning on the question of Natural Born Citizenship under Article II, Section 1 of the Constitution, the Country is now prepared to address the 14th Amendment issue of birth under the jurisdiction in the territory of the US and we might well prevail in the context of Trumps general views on citizenship and immigration.

In the context of the current makeup of the U S Supreme Court and a Presidential campaign, if the issue gets to the Court following an election victory by Biden Harris, the Court will accept the certification by the Speaker that she is eligible and will come down 6-3 in her favor on the eligibility issue.

You can make all the arguments you like about how bad that decision would be but it is where the real world is.

On the other hand, if we can look at the 14th Amendment jurisdiction issue absent a direct impact on the presidential eligibility question, there is a reasonable chance the long term result will be in our favor.

38 posted on 08/12/2020 6:41:48 PM PDT by David
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David wrote:

You can start my views with the proposition that a person should not be eligible to serve as president without a long term familial commitment beginning with full citizenship at birth to our country.

That said, we live in a country of law and the final word on this issue is the Supreme Court of the United States.

Absent this issue in a Presidential campaign turning on the question of Natural Born Citizenship under Article II, Section 1 of the Constitution, the Country is now prepared to address the 14th Amendment issue of birth under the jurisdiction in the territory of the US and we might well prevail in the context of Trumps general views on citizenship and immigration.

In the context of the current makeup of the U S Supreme Court and a Presidential campaign, if the issue gets to the Court following an election victory by Biden Harris, the Court will accept the certification by the Speaker (Pelosi) that she is eligible and will come down 6-3 in her favor on the eligibility issue.

You can make all the arguments you like about how bad that decision would be but it is where the real world is.

On the other hand, if we can look at the 14th Amendment jurisdiction issue absent a direct impact on the presidential eligibility question, there is a reasonable chance the long term result will be in our favor.

49 posted on 08/12/2020 7:37:17 PM PDT by LucyT
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