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Renowned European scientist: COVID-19 was engineered in China lab, effective vaccine ‘unlikely’
LifeSite News ^ | August 10, 2020 | Steve Mosher

Posted on 08/10/2020 5:58:05 PM PDT by ebb tide

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To: PTBAA
An alternate scenario is the accidental release in China and the Chi-Coms deciding to use their blunder as an opportunity to attack the U.S. (Misery loves company).

As Reagan famously said, a rising tide raises all boats.

Xi and the Polit Bureau did not want to be the only place the tide fell, they preferred to have every boat resting on the mud, so they wouldn't be the lowest.

Implicit in this world view is the fact that they believe that, like them, we (the rest of the world, not just the USA) wouldn't lift a finger to to help the largest manufacturing base on earth.

They think the would have been crushed into the mud and raped of all their power, dignity, and 'face'.

Just like they're doing to Africa.

Something to keep in mind should you want a shootin' war with them.

They quite literally would burn the entire world if they could be the highest remaining ash pile.

Ashholes...

101 posted on 08/11/2020 7:32:12 AM PDT by null and void (Quarantine the sick. Shield the vulnerable. Free everyone else!)
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To: servantboy777

On the world.


102 posted on 08/11/2020 7:36:20 AM PDT by EBH (Cancel the DNC Party)
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To: ebb tide

I read the article which is unconvincing.
The book is in Italian but I doubt that there will be in it the missing support for the fantastical assertions in the article.

Of course there would not and could not be any evidence for many of the conspiratorial allegations, I do not expect that, but if this is true, there must be a way to do it. All that is given is a vague reference to “reverse genetics system 2”. If you know how this is supposed to work, I would be very grateful for the explanation.

It says, “The gene insertion method used is called “reverse genetics system 2.” Using this method, she inserted an HIV segment into a coronavirus discovered in horseshoe bats to make it more infectious and lethal.”

What magic is this? So they can put any gene they want anywhere they want and leave no trace, no markers of any kind? How do you even do that?

It says,”When asked why China has refused to provide the complete genome of the China Virus to the WHO or to other countries...” What on earth are they talking about? Are they suggesting we don’t have the complete genome of the virus??

Here is an article which I hope someone will look at who knows more than I:
https://www.the-scientist.com/news-opinion/theory-that-coronavirus-escaped-from-a-lab-lacks-evidence-67229

And another:
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/22221751.2020.1733440


103 posted on 08/11/2020 7:38:44 AM PDT by BDParrish (God called, He said He'd take you back!)
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To: Darksheare
And none of this is my fault!

We didn't say it was your fault.

We said we were going to blame you.

104 posted on 08/11/2020 7:45:25 AM PDT by null and void (Quarantine the sick. Shield the vulnerable. Free everyone else!)
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To: 21twelve

You’re quite welcome! I found it really interesting learning about the history behind those and thought others might like to know as well.

One of the things that’s been encouraging about all this is how much faster we are now at attacking new pathogens. It took 20 years (1935 to 1955) from the start of attempts to find a vaccine to polio to getting one that worked. Measles took 7 years (1956 - 1963). For SARS 2003, we had vaccine candidates in under 2 years. For ebola, it was less than 8 months. With SARS-CoV-2, we had a vaccine candidate in human clinical trials in just 2 months. We’re rapidly reducing the time it takes to put critical treatments like vaccines into use and that’s going to save a lot of lives.


105 posted on 08/11/2020 7:47:48 AM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Thanks for the ping to an interesting article! On vaccines, we’ll probably find out during the months ahead. Moderna’s Phase 3 is underway.


106 posted on 08/11/2020 7:50:30 AM PDT by familyop ( "Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy".)
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To: ebb tide
"Well first of all, your beloved FDA approved RU 486 in 2000; so I don't put much stock in that godless organization."

You didn't ask about RU486. You asked "By the way, where's that ebola vaccine?" That was your question. When I linked to the ebola vaccine which you asked about, you respond with a rant about the FDA approving something else 20 years ago and about Merck's R&D process for the vaccine? Are you seriously this incapable of admitting when you're wrong?

There IS an ebola vaccine approved for use in the United States. You were wrong. Again. MOVE ON!

As for how many strikes I have left, I'm correcting all the misinformation and fearmongering you've been spreading. Stop spreading fear and misinformation and I won't feel the need to correct it.

107 posted on 08/11/2020 7:54:59 AM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest
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To: deks; ebb tide
“The three most reliable sources to date of abundant fetal stem cells are the placenta, amniotic fluid, and umbilical cord blood.

“Samples from amniotic fluid and the placenta are retrieved using the common prenatal diagnostic procedures of amniocentesis...”

“Umbilical cord blood is easily obtained at the time of birth and can be easily preserved in cord blood banks.”

Let me translate that:

Stem cells do NOT require the death of the donor.

In 1951 Henrietta Lacks provided the most commonly used human research cell line. Although that cancer ultimately killed her, harvesting the cells didn't. That line lives on, and so, in a rather weird way, does a part of her...

108 posted on 08/11/2020 7:55:32 AM PDT by null and void (Quarantine the sick. Shield the vulnerable. Free everyone else!)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
We’ve certainly proven to be a bunch of SHEEP. Grrr!


109 posted on 08/11/2020 7:58:28 AM PDT by null and void (Quarantine the sick. Shield the vulnerable. Free everyone else!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
How do you say "Cancel Cult" in Italian?

"Et tu, Brute?"?

110 posted on 08/11/2020 8:00:56 AM PDT by null and void (Quarantine the sick. Shield the vulnerable. Free everyone else!)
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To: ebb tide
"On this score, Prof. Tritto is not optimistic:

'...I therefore believe that, at the most, a multivalent vaccine can be found effective on 4-5 strains and thus able to cover 70-75% of the world’s population.'
"

That's not bad, really. It would be better than the current flu vaccines and would be enough to stop the epidemic. Milder symptoms would also be helpful (productivity, GDP, the election). And the Moderna vaccine, for example, is easier and faster to develop for many strains. We'll see whether or not it will be effective enough, as Phase 3 is in process now. And fall and winter are approaching.

111 posted on 08/11/2020 8:03:57 AM PDT by familyop ( "Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy".)
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To: ebb tide

BTW, I’ve looked at the current epidemic situation as a training exercise for the possibility of a far worse virus in the near future. Imagine what may happen to the antisocial libertine personalities then.


112 posted on 08/11/2020 8:08:32 AM PDT by familyop ( "Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy".)
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To: ebb tide
But reverse genetics can also be used to create viral strains that have increased pathogenicity. That is what Dr. Shi, encouraged by PLA bioweapons experts, began increasingly to focus her research on, according to Prof. Tritto.

If true this is way over Fauci's pay grade, this is for our military to handle.

113 posted on 08/11/2020 8:08:36 AM PDT by 1Old Pro (#openupstateny)
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To: ebb tide

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114 posted on 08/11/2020 8:10:37 AM PDT by Vision (Obama corrupted, sought to weaken and fundamentally change America; he didn't plan on being stopped.)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest
Weaponized smallpox would spread across the globe in <60 days and wipe out at least 50%. THAT’S what a bioweapon looks like.

And it would also be obvious that China did something like that deliberately - and would invite nuclear retaliation.

This one very likely accidentally escaped before it was finished - and China, initially uncertain about its lethality, decided if they were going down to make sure the rest of the world went down with it. But after the initial weeks of disaster in Wuhan it rapidly mutated back to a less lethal version (only way it could spread), so China can plausibly claim it was just another bat virus.

But Fauci has to keep tap dancing - too many things point right back to him.

115 posted on 08/11/2020 8:11:32 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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To: null and void
huh.

That was supposed to say:

Let me translate that for the agenda blinded:

116 posted on 08/11/2020 8:15:54 AM PDT by null and void (Quarantine the sick. Shield the vulnerable. Free everyone else!)
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To: 1Old Pro
If true this is way over Fauci's pay grade, this is for our military to handle.

How so?

It wasn't above Fauci's pay grade to use US taxpayer dollars to pay the Wuhan lab to create this virus!

117 posted on 08/11/2020 8:18:45 AM PDT by null and void (Quarantine the sick. Shield the vulnerable. Free everyone else!)
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To: null and void
It wasn't above Fauci's pay grade to use US taxpayer dollars to pay the Wuhan lab to create this virus!

My point being he needs to be sidelined permanently.

118 posted on 08/11/2020 8:20:28 AM PDT by 1Old Pro (#openupstateny)
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To: ebb tide

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119 posted on 08/11/2020 8:31:08 AM PDT by Chgogal (ALL lives matter. If you disagree with me, YOU are the racist.)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest
If Covid was created in a lab...it's purpose was to fashion a bio-weapon. If the communist were unsuccessful then they were unsuccessful in creating a more deadly strain...still doesn't take from the fact it was created in a lab for possible nefarious purposes. Just walked out of the lab with one of the communist scientist prematurely.
120 posted on 08/11/2020 8:37:05 AM PDT by servantboy777
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