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To: Bob434

Wooden chest syndrome caused by fentanyl OD. Unlike a regular opioid OD where you pass out BEFORE you stop breathing.


33 posted on 08/10/2020 2:16:40 PM PDT by Neverlift (When someone says "you just can't make this stuff up" odds are good, somebody did.)
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To: Neverlift

My personal opinion is this is exactly what happened- As he was complaining of not begin able to breath for many minutes before he was even taken to the ground- IF he was having a heart attack, I think- (But don’t know for sure) that it would have happened quicker- So in my unlearned opinion, it was likely the drugs that was causing his breathing difficulty, and he passed out before he actually and factually did stop breathing for real-

If you watch the video of him on the ground- talking very clearly and distinctly- you can tell his airway was Not restricted in any way- and you can clearly hear and see him taking breaths while he is talking for over 6 minutes- The officer was Not constricting his breathe at all- George woudl in no way have been able to speak clearly and without distortion to his voice IF his airway was restricted to the point of shutting off his breathing ability to the point of death-


36 posted on 08/10/2020 10:06:18 PM PDT by Bob434
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To: Neverlift

sorry I meant to say- not sure if it was Wooden chest syndrome or not- mighta been, but I think it mighta been from excited delerium:

“Excited delirium is characterized by agitation, aggression, acute distress and sudden death, often in the pre-hospital care setting.”

because He was clearly breathing for over 6 minutes- you could hear him and see him physically breathing just fine- but in an excited state- almost hyperventilating- and he was clearly talking like he was in an agitated state- He is breathing fine- talking fine (but agitatedly), then he passes out and dies- He stops talking, stops moving his head around (Which is another reason why you could tell his airway wasn’t shut off- He was able to move head and adjust his position- if his neck was pinned in such a way that he couldn’t breathe- the force would have been so strong he couldn’t move his head- if you watch the video- George was moving his head- adjusting position)

Whatever he did of, it wasn’t from neck compression- could have been heart failure, drug overdose, Excited delirium or wooden chest syndrome- but from watchign the video several times- it is fairly clear George was breathing and talking just fine right up until he died-


37 posted on 08/10/2020 10:28:38 PM PDT by Bob434
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