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To: Hojczyk
Let's look at the numbers.

According to the Johns Hopkins Center for Systems Science and Engineering, Sweden has reported 82,383 cases so far, with 356 new cases reported Aug 7. They have also reported 5,763 deaths. There is no data on the number of recoveries. However, 5,763 divided by 82,383 times 100 (to make a percent) comes out to 7% death rate--which is *slightly* higher than the "1 in 200" (0.5%) chance of dying that the MD writing this article claims. And clearly, it *is* still a problem in Sweden, evidenced by the fact that new cases continue to increase (albeit not as quickly as previously).

Downplaying the seriousness of Covid-19 does no one any favors. While it might help to fuel conspiracy theories, all it tangibly accomplishes is to make people complacent. And complacency leads to failure to take the appropriate measures to stop the spread, which in turn has brought us to this situation where we are *still* dealing with this pandemic. The *only* way to beat this thing is to understand its nature and to use the most accurate and recent scientific information to guide prevention measures. Pretending it's not a problem only prolongs the length of time that we have to continue dealing with it. Personally, I want Covid-19 gone.

12 posted on 08/09/2020 8:33:31 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org)
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To: exDemMom

exDemMom wrote: “According to the Johns Hopkins Center for Systems Science and Engineering, Sweden has reported 82,383 cases so far, with 356 new cases reported Aug 7. They have also reported 5,763 deaths. There is no data on the number of recoveries.”

You’re assuming that all cases are so severe that they are ‘reported’. This leaves out all those with minor symptoms. It also leaves out those who are ‘asymptomatic’ - you know the ones that make it necessary for us to wear masks and shut down the economy.


13 posted on 08/09/2020 8:45:41 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (A Man Hears What He Wants to Hear and Disregards the Rest)
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To: exDemMom

“The *only* way to beat this thing is to understand its nature and to use the most accurate and recent scientific information to guide prevention measures.”

As a person with multiple vulnerabilities, I consider it my responsibility to take personal prevention measures. I don’t consider it responsible to have the majority of the population which faces a much, much lower mortality risk to take extreme measures to protect me.

I don’t think we can sustain the prevention measures imposed on the entire population. People at low risk are going to forget to be on guard all the time, that’s just human nature, they’re not being malicious, and the infection will spread.


16 posted on 08/09/2020 9:38:25 AM PDT by siunevada (If we learn nothing from history, what's the point of having one? - Peggy Hill)
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To: exDemMom

Re: “Stop the spread”

I agree that it is possible to slow the spread but is “stopping” the spread possible?

I thought the point of the initial quarantine was to slow the spread ( flatten the curve) so that our medical system would not be overwhelmed.


17 posted on 08/09/2020 9:52:28 AM PDT by wintertime ( Behind every government school teacher stand armed police.( Real bullets in those guns on the hip!))
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To: exDemMom

You did not read carefully.

The Swedish doctor is talking about case fatality rates.

The total estimated number of infections in Sweden is in the range of 11%-12% of the population - about 1.2 million.

That is where the 0.5% CFR (1 in 200) comes from.


22 posted on 08/09/2020 10:52:00 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: exDemMom
Downplaying the seriousness of Covid-19 does no one any favors. While it might help to fuel conspiracy theories, all it tangibly accomplishes is to make people complacent. And complacency leads to failure to take the appropriate measures to stop the spread, which in turn has brought us to this situation where we are *still* dealing with this pandemic.

And overhyping the seriousness of it helps even less. That's why we have $3T bills being passed by the House, and $2T bills being put into law, and now Presidents putting out even more executive orders that aren't close to Constitutional. But, it's ok because it "helps" and it comes from our side...

Dallas County is currently a "hotspot" for the virus, and they have ~50M "cases" out of 2.6MM people. Less than 2%, and that's cumulative since March. And includes every single false positive, fake positive, and repeat customers. After you subtract out recovered people, and figure the majority of current positives are staying at home / in the hospital, that leaves the random guy at the grocery store having a what, .001% chance of having it? With a small chance of you even catching it from him, if you magically find the guy that does have it and is contagious?
23 posted on 08/09/2020 11:23:24 AM PDT by Svartalfiar
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