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To: SunkenCiv

if Tesla actually goes non-cobalt....that’s a game changer. cost will plummet and range will skyrocket.

as much as i hate to admit it, I’m a believer in Tesla for now. yah, i’ve dug in deeply to the numbers, and I understand them. but some of their successes are undeniable, and if this problem is solvable, then they will solve it. and if they do, then it’s game over.

at the same time, hydrogen is getting a big push from Rivian. we live in interesting and very competitive times.


6 posted on 07/31/2020 7:24:40 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: ConservativeDude

Competitive in what sense? The race for government subsidies and crony regulations?


7 posted on 07/31/2020 7:27:26 AM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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Thanks, that's interesting about Rivian. The Daimler-Benz hydrogen powered SUV (alt vehicles need to be larger, typically, to hold the storage with sufficient capacity to give the vehicle any kind of range) was tested in Europe, where apparently there is some modest infrastructure for hydrogen vehicle fueling.

11 posted on 07/31/2020 7:33:22 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: ConservativeDude

Smart post. Battery technology doesn’t follow Moores Law, but it has it’s own trajectory, otherwise our phones would have to be stuffed with fresh D cells every day. And the cost of converting sunlight directly into electrons continues to fall, so we don’t have to wait millions of years for it to be in a form we can use.

Hydrogen, yes. Also compressed air and hydraulic hybrids - two technologies with great potential.


13 posted on 07/31/2020 7:35:00 AM PDT by bigbob (Trust Trump. Trust the Plan)
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To: ConservativeDude
I’m a believer in Tesla for now

They're pretty.

26 posted on 07/31/2020 8:14:44 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Father in Heaven, I trust in Your love.)
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