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Politifact: Who are the doctors in the viral hydroxychloroquine video?
Politifact ^ | 07/29/2020 | Daniel Funke

Posted on 07/29/2020 7:33:00 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind

The ad hominem fallacy is one of the easiest to spot. If she prescribed something that cured 300 patients, who cares whether or not she’s a whack job?


21 posted on 07/29/2020 8:28:31 PM PDT by hsrazorback1 (...and I'm spent.)
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To: SeekAndFind
I wonder when the same media types are going to attack Harvey A. Risch, MD, PhD , Professor of Epidemiology, Yale School of Public Health for his article in Newsweek.

Nothing shows the inability to argue the facts more than ad-hominem attacks against doctors. It it particularly ironic that liberals who are supposedly very sensitive to the different experiences and beliefs of diverse cultures are immediately ready to ridicule an African woman doctor based on her ability to provide culturally sensitive messages to other people with similar cultural backgrounds.

It appears that leftist beliefs are paramount, and ridiculing a successful, extremely educated African woman is acceptable when she disagrees with leftist orthodoxy.

22 posted on 07/29/2020 8:32:37 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: SeekAndFind

Wish they had covered the one from Atlanta. I want to consult him if I get sick.


23 posted on 07/29/2020 8:34:36 PM PDT by madprof98
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To: SeekAndFind
RE: But that Nigerian woman is way out there in LaLa Land.

I don't think she has gotten close to where Cuomo's wife is yet. Homeopathic Chloroquine and bleach baths to cure the effects of wifi fields..

24 posted on 07/29/2020 8:35:58 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: SeekAndFind

I trust the porn star and tax evader (Snopes) more than I trust Politicrap


25 posted on 07/29/2020 8:37:07 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: hsrazorback1

RE: If she prescribed something that cured 300 patients, who cares whether or not she’s a whack job?

*The main question for the honest and sincere reporter is this:*

*Dr. Stella Immanuel says she has treated 350 patients with CoVid-19 using the Hydroxychloroquine Cocktail. It would be a simple matter for a good reporter to demand that she produce the medical cases that she claims to have cured and investigate them. There should be many of her patients who will be willing to come out to support her claims. I don’t see or read anyone challenging her to produce the cases she claims to have cured. That would be a simple test case to verify the truth or falsity of her claims.s*

*The rest are simply mocking and side issues, unrelated to the efficacy of Hydroxychloroquine*


26 posted on 07/29/2020 8:39:28 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: saintgermaine
I think the data from Switzerland as a whole is very informative.

The only test better than a double blind experiment is what might be called an on/off experiment. You observe data and then turn off one input, wait, and then turn it back on. That allows you to measure the effect of the input you removed. In this case the effect is pretty clear. When you stop treatment with HCQ nationwide more people die from COVID 19 instead of recovering.

27 posted on 07/29/2020 8:40:37 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: Jane Long

“Has FRAUDchi given his urine sample, yet, proving whether he’s taking HCQ prophylacticly?

Hmmm?”

Love to see that!


28 posted on 07/29/2020 8:42:26 PM PDT by Dogbert41 (Restore the American Way of Life)
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To: SeekAndFind
Dear Politifact,
They've known for 15 years that it works....

NIH Study from 2005: Chloroquine is a potent inhibitor of SARS coronavirus infection and spread

(Hydroxychloroquine is a safer version of chloroquine.)

"...chloroquine has strong antiviral effects on SARS-CoV infection of primate cells. These inhibitory effects are observed when the cells are treated with the drug either before or after exposure to the virus, suggesting both prophylactic and therapeutic advantage."

29 posted on 07/29/2020 8:50:29 PM PDT by ncdrumr (Oooh, SarahCUda!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Their next press conference should be the doctors and all the patients treated.

Keep doing the press conferences daily. Make the LEFT ban it daily.


30 posted on 07/29/2020 9:03:15 PM PDT by joshua c
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To: SeekAndFind

Are better question is who are these frauds at Politifact with their misleading and nonfactual claims on any thing not aligned with the Left????


31 posted on 07/29/2020 9:03:34 PM PDT by Alas Babylon! (The prisons do not fill themselves. Get moving, Barr!)
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That should be A far better....

Goshdanged autocorrect!!!


32 posted on 07/29/2020 9:05:21 PM PDT by Alas Babylon! (The prisons do not fill themselves. Get moving, Barr!)
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To: saintgermaine

Bkmk


33 posted on 07/29/2020 9:18:01 PM PDT by Mama Shawna
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To: SeekAndFind
The Soros funded “PolitiLIE” attempts yet another smear job against those they perceive as possibly helping Trump win in anyway in November.
You may be much better off getting your facts from Pravda
34 posted on 07/29/2020 9:18:54 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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Harvey A. Risch, MD, PHD, Professor of Epidemiology at the Yale School of Public Health:

“The Key to Defeating COVID-19 Already Exists. We Need to Start Using It

I am referring, of course, to the medication hydroxychloroquine. When this inexpensive oral medication is given very early in the course of illness, before the virus has had time to multiply beyond control, it has shown to be highly effective, especially when given in combination with the antibiotics azithromycin or doxycycline and the nutritional supplement zinc.”

https://newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/pj-gladnick/2020/07/27/newsweek-publishes-op-ed-blasting-media-hate-hydroxychloroquine

35 posted on 07/29/2020 9:21:25 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: saintgermaine; SeekAndFind; All

> “According to Dr. Zelenko it worked and all patients recovered. The catch is that it should be taken as soon as the virus has hit you before it goes on to do any other damage.”

Dr. Zelenko provides an excellent analogy that most everyone can understand.

First SARS-COV-2 = Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome - CoronaVIRUS - 2

COVID-18 = Coronavirus INFECTIOUS DISEASE - 19

VIRUS vs. DISEASE

News reporters are saying people ‘tested positive for COVID-19’; NO!

You don’t test positive for the DISEASE. You test positive for the VIRUS and most that test positive for the VIRUS never develop the DISEASE.

The DISEASE COVID-19 is ‘diagnosed’, not ‘tested’.

Most people have the VIRUS but don’t know it. Such people will develop antibodies naturally and never know they are infected. Their immune systems are strong enough to handle the Coronavirus and the virus infection never progresses to a disease state (COVID).

Hospitalizations:
There are two general categories of hospitalizations with COVID-19.
1. Go to hospital as soon as symptoms appear - no wait.
2. Go to hospital after waiting too long.

There are other hospitalizations:
* Sick with other things but get tested with positive result or have family member or friend with positive VIRUS (not necessarily DISEASE). Then such sick people are labeled,, branded as having COVID-19 even though it’s false. Lots of variations on this mixing things up.

COVID-19 progresses to pneumonia like symptoms, difficulty breathing, pneumocytes fill up with fluids induced by cytokine response, cytokine storm; pneumocytes start to fill up and patient starts to suffocate, can’t breath.

Now to Dr. Zelenko’s analogy:

COVID is like a FIRE of a home.

For those that get to the ER right away, the fire is small and easy to put out, minimal damage, patients recover within 24 hors as if nothing ever happened.

For those that wait too long, the fire is out of control, an entire fire department will not be able to save the home. In this case, a patient may survive but with severe lung damage. Many die.

Obviously, HCQ + Zn + Zpak will have mixed results for hospitalized patients depending on how fast they got to the hospital.

The doctors who are now speaking out (and there have been dozens over the last couple months just not broadcast, news suppressed), their patients called them, and the doctors got them to the ER FAST! And that made the difference, the recovery rates are very high.

Now, those that are asymptomatic, don’t know they have anything, they take HCQ + Zinc as prevention, as prophylaxis (Zpak not necessary because no symptoms). These people may or may not have the VIRUS but they never get the DISEASE, the COVID-19.

Therefore, the pandemic can be over in a month if the general population were to take HCQ + Zinc for prevention.

Another Zelenko analogy:

HCQ = gun
Zinc = bullet

If progressing to COVID-19, then:

Azithromycin (Zpak) = bullet-proof vest

to stave off bacterial pneumonia.

Is Zinc necessary? In general yes.

If a person drinks red wine with meals, or eats a lot of seafood, especially shell fish, those dietary items are loaded with Zinc, so the Zinc levels in their blood plasma are high enough without needing Zinc Sulfate or Zinc picolinate supplement.

But to be sure, everyone should take a Zinc supplement.

Dr. Zelenko recommends if you are in an area where a ban is placed on HCQ (crime against humanity), then substitute Quercetin which does not require a prescription.

But HCQ is the best because it has two actions:

1, It opens small pores (channels) on the cell surface to allow Zinc to get inside the cell where it blocks the SARS-COV-2 from replicating (multiplying). Quercetin does this as well, both are known as Zinc ionophores.

2. But HCQ also binds with the ACE2 receptor that the SARS-COV-2 uses to enter into the cell, the HCQ closes the door on the virus.

Summarized:
1. HCQ gets the Zinc into the cell to stop the virus from multiplying
2. HCQ closes the door on the virus reentering the cell.

If a patient can’t get HCQ because it’s banned (crime against humanity) and they take Quercetin as a substitute, they will survive if started early but will take longer to recover because the virus gets stopped by the Zinc but gets flushed back out into the blood where it reenters cells because the ACE2 door (receptor) is still open. HCQ shuts this door but Quercetin does not, so it takes longer using Quercetin to rid the body of the Coronavirus through elimination in the urine.


36 posted on 07/29/2020 9:31:37 PM PDT by Hostage (Article V)
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To: freeandfreezing

Bookmark


37 posted on 07/29/2020 9:35:45 PM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: SeekAndFind

You know when they are this EXTREME about this medication THAT IT WORKS in early stages!! It is unbelievable that EVERY social media platform has SCRUBBED it!! This is how blatant they are about wanting this virus to continue and harm the American people just to get rid of Trump!! OMG Astounding!!


38 posted on 07/29/2020 9:37:57 PM PDT by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: Hostage

Bkmk


39 posted on 07/29/2020 9:42:04 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: Hostage

Thank you for the excellent explanation, yet in my case I still prefer BHT as a prophylactic in the range of about 450mg dissolved in olive oil on a daily basis as I have done so for the past thirty years or so whenever one of these nasty viruses reared its ugly head.

It also may be of interest to note that a patent had been filed with the number US4350707 for BHT because of its LIPID COVERED virus killing ability approximately 30 years ago, however in the meantime this patent has expired.

It further is effective for a variety of viruses as long as they have a lipid covering. When the chances for transmission of such viruses blows over I cease taking it until he need for it arises again. If you like to read a more detailed post I be happy to post it.

Stay healthy and well my friend


40 posted on 07/29/2020 9:58:29 PM PDT by saintgermaine (THE TIME TRAVELLER)
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