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To: FLT-bird
They're not repudiating any responsibility for debt.

They walked away from it.

The only federal property they are taking is that which is within their own territory.....their taxes paid to build federal installations too.

Then it would be jointly owned with the other states, would it not? Don't they get any reimbursement?

It seems like a fair trade.

Well when you're walking away from debt and taking everything you can get your mitts on it's a great trade. For the other side, not so much.

The other states have no claim on them - they are sovereign.

So you keep saying.

One spouse cannot force another to stay in a relationship they no longer wish to be a part of.

But ending the marriage and dividing the community property takes a legal process and is done through negotiations on both sides. What you are describing is one spouse walking out after running up debt and taking everything they can grab. That isn't legal.

233 posted on 07/24/2020 2:09:59 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg
They walked away from it.

They repeatedly offered to negotiate in good faith about what portion of the national debt they were to take on. Lincoln refused to meet with them to discuss it.Then it would be jointly owned with the other states, would it not? Don't they get any reimbursement?

Obviously the value of any federal property in a state as well as what portion of the national debt a state was to accept upon declaring independence would be matters to negotiate. Its not at all clear however that other states would be owed a reimbursement for any federal property nationalized by a seceding state since their taxes went to paying for all federal property too.....including that federal property that is located in other states....ie if other states are due a reimbursement for say FT. Sumter then South Carolina is owed a reimbursement for all those lighthouses and canals and forts and post offices etc etc in Massachussets, Wisconsin, Vermont, Ohio, etc. Well when you're walking away from debt and taking everything you can get your mitts on it's a great trade. For the other side, not so much.

But they weren't walking away from the debt and the other states got to keep federal property in their states paid for in part by taxes paid by South Carolinians. As with any divorce, the property and the debts will have to be divided up equitably. So you keep saying.

because its trueBut ending the marriage and dividing the community property takes a legal process and is done through negotiations on both sides. What you are describing is one spouse walking out after running up debt and taking everything they can grab. That isn't legal.

No I'm not. I'm describing the two parties sitting down and working out a deal to divide up the property and the debts equitably.

252 posted on 07/25/2020 2:23:39 PM PDT by FLT-bird
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