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Historical Ignorance and Confederate Generals
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| July 22, 2020
| Walter E. Williams
Posted on 07/22/2020 3:14:43 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: rockrr
All states must participate in the decision or else it is unilateral. Just like all the individual nations of the United Kingdom must participate in order to allow American secession.
621
posted on
11/06/2020 4:47:11 PM PST
by
DiogenesLamp
("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
To: jmacusa
They were defending states rights: The right of states to own slaves. Jesus Christ how many time do you Lost Causers have to be told this. Uh, Slavery was legal in the United States of America up till late 1865. How many times do you have to be told this?
So Union states continued to enjoy the right to own slaves for 9 months longer than did the Confederacy.
And so did the US Constitution spell it out. (Article IV, section 2.)
622
posted on
11/06/2020 4:49:52 PM PST
by
DiogenesLamp
("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
To: DoodleDawg
Madison said, "A rightful secession requires the consent of the others, or an abuse of the compact, absolving the seceding party from the obligations imposed by it." 40 years later. In 1787 he was part of Virginia's ratifying commission which said the very opposite thing.
623
posted on
11/06/2020 4:52:42 PM PST
by
DiogenesLamp
("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
To: OIFVeteran
Madison does not define Constitutional law. Also as a member of the ratifying committee of Virginia, Madison agreed to the words in Virginia's ratifying statement which expressly said they had a right to resume their powers given up to the Federal government.
If Madison disagreed at the time, Virginia's statement would not have said what it said.
624
posted on
11/06/2020 4:55:14 PM PST
by
DiogenesLamp
("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
To: rockrr
625
posted on
11/06/2020 5:03:52 PM PST
by
DiogenesLamp
("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
To: woodpusher
Would that they were persuadable with reason.
626
posted on
11/06/2020 5:04:53 PM PST
by
DiogenesLamp
("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
To: Brass Lamp
All pro-union arguments eventually defy the rules of causation and will usually require sort of time travel. Ah. That explains how the war came to be about "slavery" nearly two years after Lincoln started it!
"Time Travel." Yup, that would do it.
627
posted on
11/06/2020 5:07:25 PM PST
by
DiogenesLamp
("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
To: Brass Lamp
Contrary to common belief, Hobbes and Locke mostly agreed that power was accumulated by means of consent and delegation. Where the disagreed was on the perpetual nature of the arrangement. Hobbes believed that The People, having given consent ONCE, were forever bound by that act of delegation because he believed in the continuity of identity of "The People" from one generation to the next, whereas Locke believed that no one generation had the authority to forever bind future generations without their consent. The Founders VERY definitely sided with Locke against Hobbes on this issue. Thanks for making me aware of this philosophical difference between the two. And I agree with Locke. Reality agrees with Locke. Despotism agrees with Hobbes.
628
posted on
11/06/2020 5:10:09 PM PST
by
DiogenesLamp
("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
To: jeffersondem
What had meaning in Bismarck's day (probably coined by the ole rail-splitter) still has relevance for you today: any argument is adequate if one has the majority of bayonets. +1.
629
posted on
11/06/2020 5:11:50 PM PST
by
DiogenesLamp
("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
To: Bull Snipe
Where has it been determined, in U.S. Law, that the secession of the Confederate States was legal. Very first law enacted by the US. "The Declaration of Independence." Passed by the Continental congress and signed by the representatives of all the states.
Law.
630
posted on
11/06/2020 5:17:24 PM PST
by
DiogenesLamp
("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
To: DoodleDawg
They're walking out, repudiating any responsibility for debt or other national responsibilities, taking every piece of federal property they could get their hands on, and all the remaining states were expected to sit back and take it. You leave out that for decades they paid 75% of all taxes even though they were only 1/4-1/5th of the population. They paid for every bit of what they got, and in fact the Union still owed them a lot more to make it even.
631
posted on
11/06/2020 5:20:01 PM PST
by
DiogenesLamp
("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
To: jmacusa
632
posted on
11/06/2020 5:26:09 PM PST
by
DiogenesLamp
("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
To: OIFVeteran
I on the other hand would be partial to Fort Eisenhower or Fort Patton. Just learned yesterday that Patton's mentor was John Mosby. Very entertaining comment regarding it on Instapundit open thread yesterday.
633
posted on
11/06/2020 5:30:03 PM PST
by
DiogenesLamp
("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
To: DiogenesLamp
Would that they were persuadable with reason.
Good luck with that!
To: DiogenesLamp
So you’ve crawled out your hole again. You and your skewered Civil War history. Not interested Lampster. Joe Bro K has handed your head to so many times. Haven’t you had enough of looking stupid?
635
posted on
11/06/2020 9:56:27 PM PST
by
jmacusa
(If we're all equal how is diversity our strength?)
To: DiogenesLamp
Read the book “How The Irish Saved Civilization'' before you insult my ancestral people you fecking ijit.
636
posted on
11/06/2020 9:58:16 PM PST
by
jmacusa
(If we're all equal how is diversity our strength?)
To: Kaslin
637
posted on
11/06/2020 10:05:39 PM PST
by
TianaHighrider
(God bless President Trump)
To: DiogenesLamp
Disappear for four months and then dredge up this old turkey. What gives?
To: DiogenesLamp
“a horrible financial threat to the Robber Barons of the North East”
I guess those guys were all Jewish too??
639
posted on
11/07/2020 5:58:48 AM PST
by
Wuli
To: DiogenesLamp
Name me one major Civil War battle where the Union Army had a four or five to one manpower advantage.
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