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Face Masks Really Do Matter. The Scientific Evidence Is Growing. New research suggests that face coverings help reduce the transmission of droplets, though some masks are more protective than others
Wall Street Journal ^ | July 18, 2020 | Caitlin McCabe

Posted on 07/18/2020 1:53:14 PM PDT by karpov

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To: karpov

It’s a crap study with weasel words in the conclusion;

“Universal masking at MGB was associated with a significantly lower rate of SARS-CoV-2 positivity among HCWs. This association may be related [<- weasel words] to a decrease in transmission between patients and HCWs and among HCWs. The decrease in HCW infections could be confounded [<- weasel words] by other interventions inside and outside of the health care system (Figure), such as restrictions on elective procedures, social distancing measures, and increased masking in public spaces, which are limitations of this study.”

They actually admit committing the logical fallacy “too few alternatives”!!


101 posted on 07/18/2020 3:39:36 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: karpov

Today on a bike ride, I spoke with a woman who had a mask on. After telling me how awful the response of DJT to the virus was, I asked, “when do you think you’ll have the courage not to wear one?”

Of course, that set her off. and she launched into Gov. Kemp for his no-mask mandate.

I said, “well, I’m pro choice. My body, my choice - right?”

She was enraged! She loudly states that she had an abortion at 23, the best thing she ever did, because she had two wonderful daughters now, and it was the right thing to do in her situation. Then she said “You’re just being selfish and not caring about others.”

“I bet other people thought you were being selfish too, in your abortion decision...’

I don’t think she had ever had the tables turned on her like that. I wished her well as I shoved off.


102 posted on 07/18/2020 3:40:16 PM PDT by Not_Who_U_Think
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To: karpov

Ain’t buying


103 posted on 07/18/2020 3:41:12 PM PDT by yldstrk (Bingo! We have a winner!)
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To: karpov
... he believes the pandemic could be brought under control over the next four to eight weeks if “we could get everybody to wear a mask right now.”

This is pure bullskat.

If the pandemic isn't "over" in 8 weeks, the Deep State will demand another six weeks of masks to "fix" the problem. After that, the election will be history.

Get used to the idea. Mask hysteria is going to be mandated until after the elections. The real reason for wearing them is not to bring the pandemic under control. It is to bring the country under their control.

Right now this seems to be working nicely as a strategy. Fear, panic, and pitting us all against one another works.

104 posted on 07/18/2020 3:43:58 PM PDT by Gritty (That Book, Sir, [the Bible] is the Rock upon which our republic rests. - President Andrew Jackson)
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To: karpov

Fake studies


105 posted on 07/18/2020 3:44:59 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: LegendHasIt

I really don’t want to spend $15-$20 bucks for a useless piece of cloth that will be contaminated beyond even uselessness after the first 20 minutes I wear it but a good FU message like that makes it tempting. :)

I made a couple of homemade masks from the legs of an old pair of jersey-type sweat pants. Too hot to wear in May much less now in July.

My cowboy bandana gets me in and out of the grocery store and Post Office every two weeks or so and if necessary I am stocked up to stay at home for several months. I refuse to participate in society as much as possible until this madness burns itself out. Starving the corps any way I can.


106 posted on 07/18/2020 3:45:55 PM PDT by TigersEye (Covid is over. We have been conditioned by it. The Cultural Revolution has begun.)
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To: gas_dr

Do you agree with the theory that says because the virus is smaller than the smallest particle the mask can block effectively, that the mask offers no protection from the virus?


107 posted on 07/18/2020 3:53:17 PM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: usafa92

Yep. WSJ is a bird cage liner living off a reputation acquired when it was real journalism. Now it is just garbage from whomever wants to contribute a piece (of crap)


108 posted on 07/18/2020 3:59:52 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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To: mac_truck

Yes, that is correct.


109 posted on 07/18/2020 4:00:06 PM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: Socon-Econ

It is the death rate that is important...it is a cold virus...everyone will be exposed at sometime...unless they never leave the house and no one ever comes in..

It is time to just get on with life...

Old iron worker proverb...Lifes a bitch and then you die


110 posted on 07/18/2020 4:00:52 PM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: gas_dr

So its your contention that the virus travels through the air by itself and not attached to a larger molecule?


111 posted on 07/18/2020 4:02:32 PM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: Kozak

Fortunately the thousands of diseased and illiterate illegals pouring in through the southern border has nothing to do with it.


112 posted on 07/18/2020 4:03:46 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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To: TigersEye

Yeah, I’m in about the same situation. I go to town about once every three weeks unless I’m expecting something important at the Post Office. Even before this idiocy, I hated going into town.


113 posted on 07/18/2020 4:03:46 PM PDT by LegendHasIt
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To: Crim; FormerFRLurker

As I told a friend, why not just wear two masks when you’re around me? It’s a win - win !


114 posted on 07/18/2020 4:05:08 PM PDT by Not_Who_U_Think
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To: LegendHasIt

I have a P.O. Box but online bill paying has made it almost unnecessary to check it.

I am used to self-isolating/lockdown/home detention, whatever you want to call it. Cared for my mother w/Alzheimer’s from ‘06-’16, couldn’t leave her alone long after the first few years, and since she passed didn’t feel like going anywhere.

Ironically last Dec. I started feeling like getting after it and thought of what adventures I might try once spring came. But ... you know the rest. lol


115 posted on 07/18/2020 4:10:58 PM PDT by TigersEye (Covid is over. We have been conditioned by it. The Cultural Revolution has begun.)
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To: TigersEye

I did much the same, with both parents, one after the other, 1996 to 2008. Kudos to you for doing it. Is hard. I hope to not outlive my body or my mind.


116 posted on 07/18/2020 4:17:21 PM PDT by LegendHasIt
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To: mac_truck
Do you agree with the theory that says because the virus is smaller than the smallest particle the mask can block effectively, that the mask offers no protection from the virus?

I read some lib articles in USA Today etc. that purported to debunk that. The idea is that the virus is always part of a larger particle of water vapor. ie saliva so the mask will block it.

I saw through that logic in about two seconds. The mask will become saturated with water vapor very quickly. Virus will become concentrated on the mask as more is deposited with each exhalation. The moisture will evaporate from the mask. If it didn't it would be literally dripping in about 45 minutes. That moisture will drag the virus through the mask and evaporation will carry the virus into the air. Where it will rapidly drop to the ground.

117 posted on 07/18/2020 4:20:40 PM PDT by TigersEye (Covid is over. We have been conditioned by it. The Cultural Revolution has begun.)
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To: dynoman

Exactly-cases are supposedly skyrocketing after the mandates.


118 posted on 07/18/2020 4:20:56 PM PDT by dandiegirl (BOBBY m)
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To: Sarah Barracuda
>>>That’s funny cause back in March they said that masks are useless and dont work

No - That was earlier and it was because they were worried about a supply chain disruption. So - yeah - they lied - but in the same sentence they also said they needed them for the medical field.

Now - I suppose one could believe Mike Pence is lying to you - since he has been saying this all along.

I could suppose Trump is ALSO lying to you - since he also believes masks work.

Or - perhaps - most people on here are just plain stupid and just want to believe the President and Vice President are either 1) Lying to them or 2) just too stupid to know the difference.

Dealers choice.

119 posted on 07/18/2020 4:21:37 PM PDT by NELSON111 (Congress: The Ralph Wolf and Sam Sheepdog show. Theater for sheep. My politics determines my "hero")
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To: mac_truck

There are a thousand textbook references that describe the various forms of viral transmission that you are welcome to look up. The question that you asked is a mask prevent viral infection and the answer is no.

Please feel free to educate yourself on modes of viral transmission.


120 posted on 07/18/2020 4:26:22 PM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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