Posted on 07/16/2020 3:01:06 PM PDT by Coronal
I’ll never say another word about the Admiral Kuznetsov.
At work we’ve heard from some of our people who were out there to do a ship check on her are telling us navy personel have told them that they suspect very strongly that a fire watch was not set on the opposite side of bulkead that was have hot work done on it. Either way, this should be proof, considering the other two major Navy F__K UPS, USS McCain and USS Fitzgerald, it is now obvious that the Senior Navy Leadership, i.e., the Flag ranks have to be totally overhauled and the politically correct careerist POS’s that now inhabit the Flag Ranks have to be replaced with a warrior class of officers, new blood is needed badly in the Navy Flag Ranks.
The ghost of John McCain was seen drifting away, cackling and rattling his chains.
Captain's Career shot in ....3....2...1
Stop with the tin foil hat crap. Could it be sabotage, of course there’s a chance but a very remote one. Most of you have probably never worked on a Navy ship, let alone one as big and complicated as an LHD, I have for the last 30 years I’ve been working on them, 15 years on the deck plates in San Diego and 15 more as an electrical designer. You have no idea what a ship like that is like during a maintenance and upgrade availability is like. First of all, this is the time that taking leave (vacation) is encouraged, and of course this is the time the vast majority of the crew are at c schools and the crew is not living on the ship they’re either living in a barge next to it or have made other living arrangements. Also the ship is jam packed with civilian yard birds doing the upgrade and maintenance work, almost every system is tagged out and power off while the work is being done including the auto fire suppression systems because they’re being upgraded and having maintenance done on them also. There are also temporary ventillation ducts, welding equipment and their attendent hoses, tool boxes and all kinds of stuff packing the spaces and the passegways around them where the work is being done which is all over the ship. This is the reason the fire parties were not able to reach the fire and put it out quickly, they couldn’t to it. It was a confluence of events and mistakes that will all add up to causing this disaster, this happened due to carelessness. It’s kind of like what NASA termed “Go Fever” after the Apollo 1 fire, they got careless and cut corners trying to make their deadlines and the price for that was 3 astronauts killed. I think the same basic principle was at work on the Bonny-Dick, the Navy now schedules so much upgrade work during ship availabilities that there is just a rush to get it all done on schedule they’ve gotten careless about enforcing their fire safety rules, which when I was an AIT Team Lead those rules were contractually mandated, i.e., setting of fire watches on both sides of a bulkhead or deck when welding or grinding, keeping the passageways clear of obstructions etc...etc... just basic safety rules and it looks like none of them were followed.
Well, I don’t really know much about ships, but it seems to me that if you shut down the automatic fire suppression system for maintenance that it might be a good idea to have seaman standing by with fire fighting equipment at the ready in case something goes wrong during the shut down.
You are correct. I'd bet my next paycheck that the investigation will conclude the fire was caused due to complacency and not following established procedures. Not Jihad. Not Antifa. Not BLM. Complacency.
That photo looks like a kamikaze hit the bridge.
No. Just sloppy navy maintenance practices - standard for conventionally powered ships, but NOT for nuclear ships were what goes on the job at shift start, leaves at shift end, no passages ways or hatches blocked, all essential systems working.
Likely cheaper to build a new one than attempt to salvage this one.
The Navy department needs to be cleaned out. It’s unthinkable that this fire went on for four days. They were doing construction, with contractors, which is a high risk operation. They were doing it at a time when the fire suppression system was down. And apparently had no back up plan whatsoever, and it appears the ship was unbuttoned where the fire could spread at will.
Maybe they need to spend a little less time prosecuting seals, having captains firing off letters to the editor about Covid, undermining the president in every way they can, having drag queen shows at sea, pushing for trannies and homos and diversity and having women crashing destroyers into giant slow moving lumbering container ships.
I saw her yesterday afternoon. She was tilting at about the 2:00pm position.
I attest to your description for ships in overhaul.
I was aboard LHA-1 in Long Beach for just such an event.
But this ship was in Maintenance and still tied along the pier at 32nd street. The work was far less extensive.
I’d bet on solvents and paint on the Hangar Deck or Well Deck.
A leak and a spark.
Makes sense, he probably had no shortage of hot coals to bring to start the blaze.
Look at the early ariel pics of her right after the fire started and count how many AIT trailers there were on her flight deck, and there were probably more in the hanger bay. There was a lot of work going on.
Next step is to strip it and make razor blades out of it.
Agree. Too many good people at risk for leadership that cannot navigate a busy shipping are.. or use back up systems. Highly educated with their shiny diplomas, not able to nav a shippi g lane.
Here’s what my Navy brother had to say:
US Navy safety regulations are written in blood.
this is going to be a total loss , fire started in the well deck and has now progressed all the way to the bridge , several interior decks have collapsed from the heat.
luckily crew is off ship , only duty station is aboard , they are in yard for upgrades , but thats part of the reason why its burning so bad
losing this ship is way more that just one ship , Richard is the core of a strike group , without her the strike group fails to exist . there is a small ‘fleet’ of vessels whose sole reason to exist is to support her , DD’s FFG’s CG’s and SSN’s , along with other ships for fuel and stores.
Remember that movie they made about sinking an American carrier? What do you wanna bet they scrape together every last piece of footage of the BHR burning to make a sequel?
You seem to know an awful lot about this incident. Verrry interestink...
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