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To: Yogafist
I am not suggesting that the idea is a good one. But if moving violations were treated like parking violations, which is apparently what they are proposing, then the violation would be charged to the owner, just like a parking ticket.

If the people handing out traffic tickets are not police officers of some sort, then they won't have any legal right to conduct an arrest and detention. Or at a minimum they would be conducting a citizen's arrest. Few, and maybe no jurisdictions currently allow a citizen to detain another citizen forcefully over a traffic violation.

If Berkeley is just starting up another police force, whose sole job will be to make traffic stops, then that police force would of course be able to do what the current police do. And in effect they would have a version of CHP. Maybe they will call it BSP for the Berkeley Street Patrol.

Berkeley's plan seems half baked. That isn't surprising considering where it was hatched.

87 posted on 07/11/2020 12:34:34 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: freeandfreezing
I am not suggesting that the idea is a good one. But if moving violations were treated like parking violations, which is apparently what they are proposing, then the violation would be charged to the owner, just like a parking ticket.

But how would that be enforced? I can take the ticket to court and just say I wasn't the one driving. They have no proof, they didn't get an ID or any kind of anything on who the actual violator was. And parking tickets are pretty dumb, I've been in downtown Dallas for work before and seen some random guy walk down a street, and just pull any parking tickets off of the cars he went by. So the owners/drivers now have no idea they supposedly got a ticket.
99 posted on 07/12/2020 8:17:40 AM PDT by Svartalfiar
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