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To: woodpusher

The federalists created a system of government that had never existed before, and I think doesn’t exist anywhere else. They believed (and rightfully so in my opinion) if we continued with the very weak central government under the articles of confederation that the United States would break up. So they created a new system of government with a much stronger central government, with enough checks and balances that it wouldn’t become tyrannical(hopefully), and made the constitution the supreme law of the land.

The anti-federalist seemed to think we were fine under the Articles or that the Articles just needed to be improved. Thomas Jefferson thought we would always be a nation of farmers, a bit naive in my opinion, but I don’t think anyone could see the amazing technological developments that would occur.

Personally, even with all its faults, I still think our government is one of the best on the planet. It offers us unprecedented individual liberty and material wealth. Unlike many other countries in the world I can support any political party or position I want without fear of being arrested and thrown in jail. I can worship or not worship any god or gods I want. Etc, etc.


543 posted on 07/21/2020 5:03:45 PM PDT by OIFVeteran
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To: OIFVeteran
The federalists created a system of government that had never existed before, and I think doesn’t exist anywhere else.

Hell, the system as created by the Framers does not exist here and now.

I would also note that the Federalists did not create a system of government. The effort necessarily required the support of some Anti-Federalists who found the proposed union better than no union and hoped for the best. It could be worse, but the nightly news reminds all that they are working on that.

Personally, even with all its faults, I still think our government is one of the best on the planet. It offers us unprecedented individual liberty and material wealth. Unlike many other countries in the world I can support any political party or position I want without fear of being arrested and thrown in jail. I can worship or not worship any god or gods I want. Etc, etc.

There are many things to recommend our system over other flawed systems, but being the original creation of the Framers is not one of them. It has surpassed anything envisioned by any of the Framers. Alone, the 16th and 17th Amendments radically altered the original plan of the Framers. A few centuries of rules and regulations and court opinions have also made changes.

There is no perfect system of checks and balances. The people are not perfect. If they were, anarchy would work.

The parliamentary system is not all bad. The no confidence vote has much to recommend it.

As for worshiping any god you want, when and where you want, COVID-19.

As for freedom of expression, a Trump sticker on your vehicle may get it keyed. A MAGA hat may get you attacked. Saying Trump is our President may get one fired. Something isn't right.

547 posted on 07/22/2020 12:30:19 PM PDT by woodpusher
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