Posted on 07/09/2020 7:22:08 PM PDT by Meatspace
Is he related to the rock group “Milli Vanilli”?
These people weren’t considered traitors, this rewriting of history is insane.
Many of these men continued to serve after the surrender to secure the peace.
If these men weren’t honorable, the civil war would never have ended.
He’s a REMF pogue POS and not worthy to shine the shoes of those Confederate Generals like Lee, Nathan Bedford Forrest, Stonewall Jackson, etc.
And he disgraces himself by not recognizing the efforts of the ones who survived at healing the wounds.
Milley sided with BLM. HE is the damned traitor.
In the years following VN, too many senior officers believe they are the policy makers. All general officers need to be reminded that they can advise and disagree all they want up until the time the CinC gives the orders and then they are required to snap to, salute, and march forward sharply. Otherwise, they need to be cashiered and put out in the same way as McClellan and MacArthur who both thought they were American Caesars.
Trump said he would veto an attempt to rename those bases. The JCS Chairman comes out and calls Bragg and Benning traitors.
Milley is trying to humiliate the Commander in Chief. Fire his ass!!!
As Shelby Foote said “ before the civil war it was the United Stares ARE. after the war it was the United States IS.”
As you know, it does not. It is still in question and historians and constitutional scholars argue about it to this day. The Constitution makes no reference to succession, however, it does say the union will exist in “perpetuity”.
The United States Supreme Court did rule, after the issue had been settled by force, in Texas v. White, 74 U.S. 700 (1869) that unilateral secession was unconstitutional while commenting that revolution or consent of the states could lead to a successful secession.
I guess a good place to restart the argument would be what is the difference between revolution, rebellion, and secession. it seems to me the court jumped the shark when it effectively held that is less noxious than secession. Although without succession the union would still be intact, a revolution would not guarantee that to be the case in the future.
That is because his application was taken and lost. Lee meticulously worked for America the last 5 years of his life, as hard as he had before the war.
He filled out the loyalty oath and sent it in via normal channels, wanting no special treatment.
A clerk saw it and mistakenly believed it had been acted upon and was done. He kept it as a souvenir.
It was found in his papers after he died.
Decades later, Congress corrected the clerks error and restored Lee’s citizenship.
Sorry, left out the word “revolution”.
“It seems to me the court jumped the shark when it effectively held that a revolution is less noxious than secession.”
Funny, since the Constitution of the South was pretty much VERBATIM the AGGRESSOR’S own...
Not according to the Father of our Nation.
"In all our deliberations on this subject we kept steadily to our view, that which appears to the greatest interest of every true American, the consolidation of our Union, in which is involved our prosperity, felicity, safety, perhaps our national existence."
-- George Washington, 9/17/1787
Sorry, The US Constitution is silent regarding secession.
The war of yankee aggression.
Correct
This is great. I think they should be indicted and tried for treason and sentenced to prison. That ought to teach them.
Dude you are missing the point of the Confederate statues
They are about reconciliation and coming together under one flag, one nation, as one people.
“With Malice Toward None and Charity(Love) for All”
These men fought each other over ideas and once it was over walked across battlefields to shake each other’s hands and hug it out.
They then worked toward making a better America together
You are a very small and petty person with a certain conceit that enables you to shade the history of what went on and why each side venerated each other.
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“It was an act of treason, at the time, against the Union, against the Stars and Stripes, against the US Constitution
Yeah? And the men of that time had inferior compassion and intellect than you?
Zactly
I know - Lee signed his petition in Oct 1865 and it was found over a century later in State Dept archives.
Generally, when one is found guilty of treason, citizenship is rescinded. Congress and the US President restored Lee’s.
Apparently, Gen Milley believes he’s more intelligent than Congress and a former President. He needs to resign yesterday.
With the South’s surrender they were accepted as full
American citizens again and recognized as such by the
central government and both sides.
Americans who acted under the constitution on both sides,
the South did not attempt to overthrow the Union but to
simply leave and found a new polis as suited their will.
Traitors? Citizens! AMERICANS!
Our history is not always beautiful but the result is.
Without remembering the past we lose the future.
t68
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