Posted on 07/04/2020 10:12:53 AM PDT by wastedyears
A white couple from Clarkston, Michigan, was arrested and charged with a felony after a video showed the woman pointing a gun at a Black mother and her two daughters.
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The fact that people are aware that black thugs can invent a racial incident and go into berserk attack mode in a flash.
Ditto the Flint Michigan Macy’s worker.
It becomes the basis for a reasonable fear for your life (or serious injury.)
A gun is not a magic wand. For it to have ANY deterrent effect, the other person MUST BELIEVE that you will fire. The black woman did not believe. White couple loses.
That's why you need more tools in your self-defense tool box than just a gun. The black woman didn't believe the gun, but probably would believe pepper spray.
Wow. We no longer go ANYWHERE unarmed.
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Correct, but an attorney could argue that deadly force was not used as the gun was not fired. The direct reading of the statute would apply in that case.
Saw that from a link on Parler. There’s been double standards on this type of attack for a long time now. It’s just gotten worse over the past month because the media is raging the fires. Democrats holding AG and DA positions are showing just how racist they are by letting looters and rioters go, but prosecuting whites who are within their legal rights to defend themselves. Democrats have made it open season on all police officers, and whites defending themselves. I hope their hypocrisy destroys them.
I agree with you
I realize not a ‘magic wand’ but you may be able to cause enough ‘confusion’ with them that will allow you to get out of ‘Dodge’
It is a very small window but better than drawing and opening fire immediately which - especially in todays climate - will probably get you in MORE trouble...
Earlier I had ‘half joked’ that it would be cheaper to GIVE everyone a body cam than what the different towns and cities pay off for ‘edited film’ etc.
At least Police should be wearing AND recording with some sort of ‘anti tampering’ system AND available for review by ‘interested parties’ Would save a lot of time.
I remember a few years ago LEO was ‘glad’ for dash cams when it came to DUI for once the guy sobered up and they showed him himself the night before, a lot of cases got cleared up quickly.
Remember one of the operating rules of the Special Forces: make every effort to avoid a firefight.
getting out of the car with a gun was stupid. they were sitting in a 3000 pound weapon.
Oh bull shit
Black Lies Matter
They didn’t “use” deadly force. Showing a gun may be brandishing, or assault, depending on state law, but it is not “using deadly force” until you pull the trigger. Jesus christ, the dumbassery on these threads is amazing.
“The Oakland County Prosecutor’s Office announced Thursday that the Wuestenbergs were charged with felonious assault.”
Simple solution:
Michigan is a strong home rule state that allows voters to recall any elected official - for any reason - by signing a recall petition. With this simple fact in mind, this incident will require that conservatives circulate a petition to recall the Nazi Oakland County prosecutor.
This is a very fast process that will remove the Oakland County prosecutor and make her stand for election.
If a gun or other weapon is drawn and displayed in such a manner as to intimidate, threaten or otherwise impress upon another person that deadly force is imminent, then that is brandishing. She definitely did that.
Like I said in my other post, doubted, and still don’t understand, why a felony charge was applied and that will be lowered. THE MICHIGAN PENAL CODE Act 328 of 1931
750.234e Brandishing firearm in public; applicability; violation as misdemeanor; penalty:
MCL 780.971 to 780.974.
(3) A person who violates this section is guilty of a misdemeanor punishable by imprisonment for not more than 90 days, or a fine of not more than $100.00, or both.
She did brandish by trying to intimidate. And she used the gun in a wrong situation. But the law places it as a misdemeanor and non-felony charges are unwarranted.
rwood
Understood but you don’t mess with your self defense guns, especially off your own property. They are for deadly force situations, not every altercation.
Oakland Cy prosecutor is a crazy liberal. She is up for Re-election this fall. Oakland Cy Sheriff is conservative and a good man.
This is a different situation than the lawyer one..
Correct. Unless your local LEO’s are defunded....
“If you’re gonna shoot, shoot! Don’t talk”.~Tuco
Clear coat in a spray-can is sticky and messy....so is spray paint.
But they can't argue that cooking oil spray is "dangerous"...
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