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Native tribal leaders are calling for the removal of Mount Rushmore
CNN ^ | July 2, 2020 | Leah Asmelash

Posted on 07/03/2020 10:32:20 AM PDT by Stravinsky

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To: Stravinsky
"Nothing stands as a greater reminder to the Great Sioux Nation of a country that cannot keep a promise of treaty then the faces carved into our sacred land on what the United States calls Mount Rushmore," said Harold Frazier, chairman of the Cheyenne River Sioux Tribe in South Dakota, where the memorial is located.

Yeah. So?

61 posted on 07/03/2020 11:19:22 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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Bump


62 posted on 07/03/2020 11:22:16 AM PDT by foreverfree
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

That quite effective and lucrative,too. They don’t likum the white man but they did his wampum $$$.


63 posted on 07/03/2020 11:24:35 AM PDT by Leep (We can go to the grocery store but we can't go to work?)
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To: Stravinsky

There is nothing sacred about Indian lands because most are dumps and they do not tend to their lands. My wife is Sioux and Cherokee. None of her family identify as native American for several generations.


64 posted on 07/03/2020 11:27:16 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Have!)
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To: Stravinsky

Uh, no.


65 posted on 07/03/2020 11:27:56 AM PDT by myerson
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To: laweeks

Yep. Indians run the gift shop there. A sham. Film Flam. Chicanery. I wanted my money back when I went there.


66 posted on 07/03/2020 11:28:46 AM PDT by Brasky (You miss every shot you never take.)
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To: rxsid

Interesting info; however, I’m not convinced that projectiles are very good evidence.
When carving “flint”, or points from obsidian, there is not a lot of variety in the final product.
Obsidian fractures or breaks conchoidally, no mater where it comes from and points from North America would look pretty similar to ones from Europe.
I worked on a cattle ranch in Nevada and a local cowboy could take obsidian and make an arrowhead in about 30-minutes. He was so good at it he used to inscribe his initials on them so they couldn’t be passed for artifacts.
His points look just like the old ones from the area and look a lot like the European points.


67 posted on 07/03/2020 11:31:43 AM PDT by Cuttnhorse (Nothing dies harder than a lie that people want to believe)
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To: Stravinsky

Remove all the casinos and I’ll think about it.


68 posted on 07/03/2020 11:31:47 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper
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To: Stravinsky

I’m not interested in the opinion of a bunch of drunks looking for more space to open another casino. Mt. Rushmore is a magnificent piece of art, created despite enormous physical challenges. It is a tribute to the art and engineering genius of its creator.


69 posted on 07/03/2020 11:33:33 AM PDT by EinNYC
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To: EinNYC

Is slave owning Confederates who were defeated don’t get a say in what monuments get to stay, then why should slave owning Indians who were defeated get a say?


70 posted on 07/03/2020 11:36:24 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (They are openly stating that they intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live.)
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To: Cuttnhorse

The old TIME-LIFE book EARLY MAN showed how to make an obsidian point. Very interesting.

I did it for a while using old mirror and thick window glass. Unfortunately mine all looked like flat glass with a chipped edge.


71 posted on 07/03/2020 11:37:53 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Tejas Rob

That’s true too.


72 posted on 07/03/2020 11:40:01 AM PDT by dsc (As for the foundations of the Catholic faith, this pontificate is an outrage to reason.)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Most of the Sioux chiefs at that time wanted to sell the Black Hills anyway. Only Crazy Horse stood in the way as he had already murdered over 400 whites in the area.

As for the treaties, you are correct. the Big Chief had no real power, as that was vested in the warrior societies, and any warrior society chief that did not want to go along with the treaty could still go on the warpath. ALL the Society chiefs had to agree to the treaty, but individual warriors could still, and often did, opt out.

People today do not understand the cultural differences in such treaties. They think the Big Chief agrees, and that is that. It is not!


73 posted on 07/03/2020 11:43:51 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: frank ballenger

***Get jobs like everybody else.***

we had a group of Navajos come in to our power plant and rebuild it. They did an excellent job, so they can do well if they want to.


74 posted on 07/03/2020 12:11:56 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Rebelbase

The first time I saw it was when I was 19 years old. Obviously I won’t live to see it finished, but the prototype is pretty cool. ;)


75 posted on 07/03/2020 12:13:26 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'hobbies.' I'm developing a robust post-Apocalyptic skill set.)
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To: Nateman

Partner, this is all Pelousy thinks and she can not carry water in Congress. She is 80 years of age and taking Botox treatments, Etc.

BTW, Great post and great pic.

76 posted on 07/03/2020 12:36:40 PM PDT by TheConservativeTejano (God Bless Texas...)
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To: Tejas Rob

It’s absolutely true of those tribes that were within the 13 colonies. The only loyalists anywhere within any of my ancestral lines turned up to have descendants on the Guion-Miller Rolls, the Indian census of the Eastern Cherokee.


77 posted on 07/03/2020 12:41:01 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Stravinsky

I’m currently reading “Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee.” These four presidents aren’t the ones who wronged the Sioux. But they were indeed terribly wronged.


78 posted on 07/03/2020 12:46:20 PM PDT by Twotone (While one may vote oneself into socialism one has to shoot oneself out of it.)
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To: Stravinsky

Soros handing them over booze money


79 posted on 07/03/2020 12:57:22 PM PDT by ronnie raygun
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and what land did the Sioux get pushed out of before ending up in southwestern minnesota and SD???


80 posted on 07/03/2020 1:07:26 PM PDT by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!at)
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