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To: Salvavida

“The Afghan government should have known they had a window to liquidate the Taliban”

The embedded assumption in that is that the Afghan government has the means to do that - liquidate the Taliban. They don’t.

The Taliban can and will keep fighting as long as they just chose to, and no Afghan government can liquidate them.

The Afghan government can survive only as along as it makes that same choice - to keep fighting.

If both sides maintain enough fight in themselves, it may be a century before enough fight has bled out of them, enough to make a settlement.

The two sides represent near diametrically opposed visions of Afghanistan, on a political level, while sharing cultural elements they both have from Afghanistan’s long history.

But the Taliban have one cultural advantage. They are largely Pashtun, and the Pashtun are the largest ethnic group in Afghanistan (about 40%) and the second largest ethnic group next door in Pakistan (15%). The Taliban use that ethnic identity as a lever equal to their religious fundamentalism and clan and tribal loyalty. Those are very basic identity levers.

The Afghan government is trying to represent all Afghans and its giant challenge is that it is seeking an identity with an idea. Ideas are harder sells than culturally driven identities and loyalties, particularly in a place that has been at war since the 1980s.

In my view there was only one way to “win” in Afghanistan and no U.S. government had the stomach or the public will to do it - conduct the war like WWII - pull out ALL the stops, throw EVERYTHING at it and do not let up until unconditional surrender. THAT would have won the war, but that was never going to happen. GWBush did not want to go there, and certainly Obama was going to do the opposite.

ALL the U.S. has to do is support the Afghan government sufficiently for that government’s survival, and no more (that’s more on the material side than the troop side). Time, maybe a century, will take care of the rest.


27 posted on 06/24/2020 6:52:14 AM PDT by Wuli (Get)
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To: Wuli
Dear sir,

I was in Afghanistan. They had the means with us and NATO. Rather than get serious about ridding themselves of the Taliban and Haqqani, they screwed around trying to get as much out of the US as if we were a permanent piñata they could strike and get candy on demand.

US leadership communicated to the Afghans that we would be there as long as it took......that is why no progress was made. There was a golden opportunity to flip all of the significant imams to a less primitive strain of Wahabbism-- it was drawn up by a U.S. Marine Captain, and it was tested with great success. Then the State Department dropped the program. After the pilot program worked.

I get mad as shit just thinking about it. We had the strategic win, and State and the Barkey administration screwed it up.

As for the killing, it was much too surgical. We were wasting expensive smart weapons like JDAMS on mud buildings. Ridiculous. When a village demonstrably aids and abets terrorists, there are no innocents. If it was good for Dresden, it's good for Afghanistan.

29 posted on 06/24/2020 8:26:25 AM PDT by Salvavida
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