Posted on 06/17/2020 9:49:07 PM PDT by Kaslin
Its certainly frustrating to watch a pack of reeking leftist scumbags declare a portion of an American city an autonomous zone what is it with Democrats and their secession fetish? but do not get frustrated because Donald Trump has not sent the 101st Airborne in to powerwash the human grunge from Seattles feces-bedecked streets.
Thats what the Democrats want. And Trump a better strategic thinker than all the media geniuses, hack politicians, and Afghan War-losing generals who cry about him is not only not going to give them the victory they crave. Hes going to jam their cheesy plan down their throats.
The libs plan to win in November corresponds to Trumps plan to crush them yet again. Skeptical? Consider this. In the five years since he rode down that escalator bringin hell with him, how many times have they come at Trump and won? Zero. Hes spent half a decade on the edge of doom and hes still here. Why would you think that the walls are suddenly closing in now? You shouldnt.
Lets understand the strategic scenario. The long-term strategic objective of the leftists is to turn the United States into Venezuela, and they want to be Maduro. The major strategic objective that will put them in position to do so is victory in the November elections. Everything happening right now is part of their overall strategy to achieve that objective. But what kind of operation are they using to achieve that objective? There are two types of operations relevant here kinetic and information. A kinetic operation is actual warfare. Its violence designed to defeat the enemy and cause his surrender by either physically destroying him or occupying his territory and compelling surrender. An information operation is designed to affect the perceptions, and thereby the actions, of the target. Kinetic ops tend to do something to the enemy; and info op tends to get the target to do something to himself.
Elections are usually information operations. They attempt to build a narrative and play on perceptions and cause the target to take the action that will lead to victory. That is, get the target (the electorate) vote for the candidate the info operator wants elected.
Okay, so what is the 2020 elections, with the rioting, vandalism, violence and occupations?
This still an information operation, not a kinetic one.
They want to convince us we are powerless, that everyone else supports their commie agenda, that we cannot win. Their tactics are designed to create that impression and crush our morale. These include the 24/7 media hype, the outright media lies, the movie stars with their dumb PSAs, the staged statue attacks, the corporate solidarity proclamations, the social media cancellations, and the craven kneeling by people who are supposed to stand up for us. But another tactic, familiar to any student of insurgencies, is to provoke an overreaction by those in power in order to undermine its moral authority. They want is to make us (including the president) think this is a kinetic operation, and get our side to make fundamental strategic errors by failing to recognize the true nature of the threat. They hope that such a mismatch between perception and reality will then lead to gravely damaging blunders. One of those would be Trump succumbing to his legit frustration and sending in a bunch of federal troops to crack skulls in Seattle.
Defining this insurgency as a kinetic operation supports the leftists information operation goal of making Americans perceive the situation as out of control, of there being chaos, and of making the election of Grandpa Badfinger being the only thing that will resolve the situation. But there is no kinetic situation to resolve at least none that is strategically significant in a kinetic sense. Despite the hype, the protests may have involved a peak of 2 million people across the country out of 330 million. Thats nothing kinetically; its significant informationally because it is pushed by so many cultural influencers. The scurvy scumbags of Antifa hold essentially no ground except the turf they are physically standing on at the moment, and that is minuscule. Even the hilarious Road Warrior Republic of Seattle is not even a rounding error of a rounding error in terms of US territory. Its significant only in the context of an information operation.
Many of us cons are furious that Trump is doing nothing. This is the wrong thing to think. Trump is only doing nothing if this is a kinetic operation; because this is an information operation, not going kinetic (sending in the troops) is doing something. And in fact, Trump is employing the law enforcement component of his kinetic assets by having the feds wait and arrest Antifa types after the protests end, and hitting them with hardcore federal rioting-related charges. Previously, they would get ticketed and released; now, looking at a five-to-ten stretch, the lawyers their daddies hired to get these sunshine anarchists out of their beefs are going to be advising them to roll over so they can start back up at Cornell in September and not at Leavenworth.
Trump can and should let Seattles problem be Seattles problem. A small-scale riot in a peripheral city known for coffee, drizzle, and droning, garbage music is the very definition of a local problem. Why would Trump interject himself into it and relieve the mayor and governor of the consequences of their failure to keep order? Why would he stop them from showing the electorate exactly what the reeking cesspool they could expect after Gropey Joe defunds the police looks like?
Scumbagistan is a giant zit on the face of liberalism, and why should Trump pop it? Hes letting it fester for all of us to see and winning the information war.
Understand that the leftist establishment would like nothing better than for Trump to go kinetic. Thats why it is baiting him, and hoping that those of us who are sick of these Lil Red Guards will pressure him into dropping in the paratroopers to bust some heads and oh please, oh please, oh please get caught on video Kent Stating up a batch of fresh new martyrs. Trumps too smart for that, and frankly the establishment is too dumb and undisciplined to carry it out. The media shot its wad on the hyperbolic reaction to clearing out the park in front of the White House, demonstrating that even the most gentle and restrained of kinetic actions was going to get transmogrified into Hitlers blitz across the Low Countries. And those generals screwed-up too, bad. They should have waited to wring their hands over Trumps violent and dangerous employment of the military until he actually violently and dangerously employed the military. A bunch of allegedly (but not actually) neutral and nonpartisan military figures with heaps of establishment street cred coming down on POTUS in the wake of a bloodbath could have had a devastating political effect, but they pulled the trigger too early. Mattis and Milley and the rest of the medal men were supposed to think are superb strategic operators, but who still havent won the war against a pack of turbaned banditos after about 20 years, screwed-up yet again. They were supposed to deliver an info op kill shot to define Trump to the masses as a bloody tyrant and instead got just one news cycle of play with the Twitter blue checks. The only casualty was not Trumps rep, but their own credibility with anyone outside of the Beltway.
Right now, the American people are seeing chaos. But chaos does not necessarily play against Trump in the long term. Biden is trapped, trying to nuance his unsteady carcass through the conflict between the Democrats Defund the Police means Reform the Police faction and the No, Defund the Police really means Defund the Police faction. All the while, Trump is tweeting LAW AND ORDER!
Do you think this is all helping the Dems? If you do, stop watching MSNBCNN. Except among Hollywood jerks, urban hipsters and whiny woke wine women from Westchester, the attack on order means Advantage: Trump. You can see the results if you look behind the media curtain. Remember how the media had a collective panty-wetting over the meaningless Georgia primary and the GOPs alleged voter suppression? Did you wonder why the media felt it was such a big deal? The answer is in the actual results, which you did not hear about if you listen to the garbage mainstream media. Trump, who had the nomination sewn up, crushed Biden and the rest of the Dems combined in votes. Wait, didnt all the smart people tell us that Georgia, under the carb-curious leadership of Governor Stacy Abrams, was turning blue?
Yeah, right.
Trump is winning this information battle. Conservative Americans and moderate Americans who want law and order cant wait to vote against defunding the police, rioting and appeasement. The Silent Majority is being roused again.
...territorial jurisdiction of the United States...
Hmmmm...delimmas, delimmas.
You grok this?
Terrorists? Well, well.
So what you're arguing now is that President Trump tweets threatening to send in the National Guard violate the law.
Is that why he never acted on his threats?
Yep!
Terrorists?
Has it been done yet? And even if it does happen do you think 18 USC 7(3) will still apply?
So what you're arguing now is that President Trump tweets threatening to send in the National Guard violate the law.
NOPE! Now who is trying to put words in other people's mouth?
Is that why he never acted on his threats? (there you go with that buzzword again)
You expect me to answer for someone else?
Ask him, not me.
Still waiting for you to define "terrorism".
An aside...RCWs > Title 9 Washington State Legislature
Civil disorder, proclamation of state of emergency, governor's powers, penalties: RCW 43.06.200 through 43.06.270
We return once again to Federalism.
I am asking you. And all you do is avoid questions, but expect me to answer yours.
Here is the point germane to this discussion - you can't get away from the glaring tweet I just sent you of President Trump saying Antifa was a terrorist organization, so you attempt to slither away and point to your next squirrel.
And once again, your tactic is to pound the table.
You also don't care if other American's homes, businesses, and even lives are collateral damage in the war against Antifa, Soros, BLM, the Communists, and the Globalists.
You think you're safe, so what do you care?
And all you do is avoid questions, but expect me to answer yours.
I answer questions, just not rhetorical/hypothetical ones.
...you can't get away from the glaring tweet I just sent you of President Trump saying Antifa was a terrorist organization
How does saying "will be designating Antifa as a terrorist organization" get turned into "President Trump saying Antifa was a terrorist organization"?
Why are you hiding under the table? /rhetorical question
You also don't care if other American's homes, businesses, and even lives are collateral damage in the war against Antifa, Soros, BLM, the Communists, and the Globalists.
Now YOU'VE become the mind reader.
You think you're safe, so what do you care?
Another rhetorical question.
Still waiting for you to define "terrorism".
Good heavens. There are direct questions, relay questions, overhead questions, and rhetorical questions. They are all questions. You think rhetorical is somehow sophistry? Who told you that?! Your attack is by definition, sophistical.
I answer questions, just not rhetorical/hypothetical ones.
No, the reason you are avoiding what I put to you is because you and I both know that to answer it honestly, you would damn your own arguments and position. Moreover, by your twisted logic, law professors and others who utilize the Socratic method are similarly out of bounds. That, more than anything else, reveals a great deal about your thinking.
How does saying "will be designating Antifa as a terrorist organization" get turned into "President Trump saying Antifa was a terrorist organization"? Why are you hiding under the table? /rhetorical question
The left and their legal allies argue that the President declaring Antifa as a terrorist organization has no legal standing. That is rubbish. The President, as chief of the Executive Branch, is Constitutionally empowered to enforce the law. And, as precedent in both action and in a legal sense, previous such actions by Presidents and by their Attorney Generals have allowed the FBI and the Justice Dept to treat Neo-Nazis, Islamic groups, and the KKK as criminal enterprises. Even the feckless Barr said this: "The violence instigated and carried out by antifa and other similar groups in connection with the rioting is domestic terrorism and will be treated accordingly, Mr. Barr said.
Beyond ALL of that, the President, the military, and Federal civil servants take an oath to defend the Constitution against all enemies, both foreign and domestic.
You (and the ACLU) coult take all of that slithering to the courts if you like, but the mandate to act against these organizations is not only backed up by previous Presidents, it is backed up the Constitution itself.
Still waiting for you to define "terrorism".
Is your Google broken?
I doubt it.
Which one would you like?
How about this one:
https://www.fbi.gov/investigate/terrorism
Domestic terrorism: Violent, criminal acts committed by individuals and/or groups to further ideological goals stemming from domestic influences, such as those of a political, religious, social, racial, or environmental nature.
Hmmmm ..violence......groups.....individuals......ideological goals... .political......social....racial.....
Pretty much what we have, isn't it?
I'll reiterate what I said earlier: the longer this insurgency and anarchy is allowed to fester, the worse the infection will become.
Geez, change your Depends.
No, more precisely...it's what they are.
He was successful for one coach, Jim Harbaugh. Was benched by the next, he opted out of his contract.
I want a pony.
The left and their legal allies argue that the President declaring Antifa as a terrorist organization has no legal standing.
You're destroying your own argument! Antifa hasn't been declared a terrorist organization!
...as criminal enterprises.
Criminal enterprises, not terrorist organizations.
DESTROYING YOUR OWN ARGUMENT AGAIN.
Even the feckless Barr said this: "The violence instigated and carried out by antifa and other similar groups in connection with the rioting is domestic terrorism and will be treated accordingly, Mr. Barr said.
The WHOLE statement...Attorney General William P. Barr's Statement on Riots and Domestic Terrorism
Hmmmm ..violence......groups.....individuals......ideological goals... .political......social....racial.....
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA
You're busting your own chops!
The link you gave...https://www.fbi.gov/investigate/terrorism has a hyperlink at Domestic terrorism.
It goes to the very law I linked to earlier which has this!
(5)(C) occur primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the United States.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA
No wonder you didn't hot link the site!
Pretty much what we have, isn't it?
Yep, but it is predominately happening where States have jurisdiction, not the Federal government, which you don't seem to want to understand or accept.
Well, not yet anyway.
And I want CHAZ/CHOP criminals arrested.
My want is more substantial.
The May 4 Shootings at Kent State University: The Search for Historical Accuracy
Trump said it will be.
Antifa: Trump says group will be designated 'terrorist organisation'
"There are ways the Trump administration can designate individuals or groups as foreign terrorists, including legislation and an executive order."
And we had this:
"Trump's chief spokesperson, Kayleigh McEnany, vowed on Fox News that -- under a "law and order" president like Trump -- antifa "will be prosecuted as" a "domestic terrorism entity."
Of course, he is being undermined by his own Dept of Injustice. And of course the Left and the media.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA You're busting your own chops! The link you gave...https://www.fbi.gov/investigate/terrorism has a hyperlink at Domestic terrorism. It goes to the very law I linked to earlier which has this! (5)(C) occur primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the United States. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Wrong.
That's where your disconnect comes in. TWO things, DISTINCTLY stated as such. RIOTS (cities and States) and Domestic Terrorism (federal enclaves...like D.C.) Domestic terrorism can only happen in certain areas! (see red below) Federal enclaves!
Wrong again.
And after that schoolyard fiasco you call an argument, you should have read further:
§2331. Definitions As used in this chapter (1) the term international terrorism means activities that (A) involve violent acts or acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State, or that would be a criminal violation if committed within the jurisdiction of the United States or of any State;
(B) appear to be intended (i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population; (ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or (iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping; and
Perhaps you should just purchase an Antifa and BLM flag at this point?
Do you now concede they can be arrested?
Did you know the Patriot Act expanded the definition of terrorism to include domestic terrorists?
The FBI can arrest them. So can other Federal agents.
You don't know this?
But "Nanny Nanny Boo Boo" would have been more effective.
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