Today markets close mostly in red. Hertz up over 2% on Investor enthusiasm on news that stock is worthless.
1 posted on
06/17/2020 5:32:41 PM PDT by
wrrock
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To: wrrock
The average stock is no where near bubble territory, about 15-20 times trailing earnings - about what you would expect in a low-interest environment.
To: wrrock
This guy’s probably got shorts out all over the place and is looking for suckers to bail him out. And MarketWatch, which has been deliberately trying to crash the economy since Trump got elected, is all too willing to oblige.
4 posted on
06/17/2020 5:39:16 PM PDT by
Kenny Bania
(Ovaltine? Why not call it Roundtine?)
To: wrrock
“The great bubbles can go on a long time and inflict a lot of pain but at least I think we know now that were in one.”
He’s really putting himself out on the limb with that prediction. I’ll go farther: the market will go down after first going up, or the other way around. Eventually, and probably sooner than most people think, one of those downswings is going to be huge. Boom! Bursted bubble. My track record has been 100% in predictions like this.
To: wrrock
Well, Glenn Beck says buy gold. So there’s that.
8 posted on
06/17/2020 5:45:21 PM PDT by
logitech
To: wrrock
11 posted on
06/17/2020 5:48:14 PM PDT by
Brown Deer
(America First!)
To: wrrock
He is right, bubbles historically collapse whenever an incumbent Republican President runs for re-election...
12 posted on
06/17/2020 5:49:17 PM PDT by
SecondAmendment
(This just proves my latest theory ... LEFTISTS RUIN EVERYTHING)
To: wrrock
Never heard of this “legend” and don’t give damn about his “confidence.”Apparently he predicted the tech bubble in the 90’s......along with everyone who figured out powerpoint and access databases were not a viable business plan.
To: wrrock
Grantham is worth paying attention to due to his prescient calls over the years.
"Mr. Grantham's study of bubbles suggests that it takes them about as long to deflate as it did to inflate.... He says the Standard & Poor's 500-stock index could fall more than an additional 20% from its current level." ~~ E.S. Browning, "A Party So Wild, the Cleanup Goes On," The Wall Street Journal, March 3, 2003.
April 2003 through July 2008 = +65%. Only one month in the following year was even negative and only a 1% loss at that.
20 posted on
06/17/2020 6:01:35 PM PDT by
Brown Deer
(America First!)
To: wrrock
Calling 3 flips of a coin in a row doesn’t change your odds of being right the fourth time.
21 posted on
06/17/2020 6:03:48 PM PDT by
Raycpa
To: wrrock
“...the most bubblicious hes seen in his storied career.”
“Bubblicious”? Seriously?
Yeah, stopped reading right there.
23 posted on
06/17/2020 6:05:35 PM PDT by
Kriggerel
("All great truths are hard and bitter, but lies... are sweeter than wild honey" (Ragnar Redbeard))
To: wrrock
Right now, millions upon millions of people are living off their 600 bucks a week unemployment and their Covid stimulus checks/debit cards. Millions of people have also benefited from differing their student loan payments, deferring mortgage payments, and enjoying the benefits of not being evicted for failing to pay their rent. Very soon, all of those protections will come to a sudden end. By the beginning of August, you are going to see a lot of desperate people. On top of this, Democrat mayors, governors, senators, and congress persons are determined to keep spreading the economic misery far and wide.
On the other end of the spectrum, we have the markets. The markets are not bounded by economic reality. They are a monster child of the Fed.
Things may get very interesting very rapidly.
24 posted on
06/17/2020 6:07:45 PM PDT by
SkyPilot
("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
To: wrrock
GMO Is Feeling Pain Reminiscent of the Late 1990sOctober 10, 2019
It seemed as if every single thing that could go wrong for us from an investment standpoint did, Ben Inker, GMOs head of asset allocation, said in the firms third-quarter letter to clients. The recent cycle has gone on for significantly longer and the pain caused to our portfolios has begun to approach 1990s levels.
The losses GMO suffered during the extreme disparities in stock valuations before the internet bubble burst made it hard to convince clients that its prospective returns were actually very good, according to Inker. The firm, founded by Jeremy Grantham, is again seeking to persuade impatient clients that holding tight will similarly pay off.
This time around, the firms underperformance versus benchmarks has been 20 percent to 25 percent less than in the late 1990s, he wrote. But the duration has been particularly painful.
25 posted on
06/17/2020 6:13:19 PM PDT by
Brown Deer
(America First!)
To: wrrock
I have been watching this guy for two months. He has been right EVERY FREAKIN DAY. I do not know how he does it. Sign up for his newsletter so you get emails from him. He does at least one video a day.
He is entertaining as well. You pay nothing. You just get daily advice.
https://youtu.be/anCPgDJSMLg
26 posted on
06/17/2020 6:14:46 PM PDT by
Danette
To: wrrock
From wikipedia:
“Grantham has repeatedly stated his opinion that the rising cost of energy the most fundamental commodity between 2002 and 2008 has falsely inflated economic growth and GDP figures worldwide and that we have been in a “carbon bubble” for approximately the last 250 years in which energy was very cheap.
He believes that this bubble is coming to an end. He has stated his opposition to the Keystone Pipeline on the basis of the ruinous environmental consequences that its construction will bring to Alberta and to the entire planet due to the contribution that burning the extracted oil would make to climate change.
In August 2019, he dedicated 98% (on average $1 billion) of his personal wealth to fight climate change.”
Any questions?
To: wrrock
Probably a lefty writer there. Markets aren’t high enough for a bubble, and letting a crash happen before the election would be a very foolish business move for investors or businesses.
28 posted on
06/17/2020 6:19:19 PM PDT by
familyop
( "Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy".)
To: wrrock
30 posted on
06/17/2020 6:24:02 PM PDT by
MSF BU
To: wrrock
He correctly predicted 3 financial bubbles but how many did he incorrectly predict and no one noticed?
32 posted on
06/17/2020 6:36:27 PM PDT by
FrdmLvr
To: wrrock
This doesnt explain a bubble, but it may explain some of the instability -
LINK More insanity - HERE
33 posted on
06/17/2020 6:38:05 PM PDT by
Sgt_Schultze
(When your business model depends on slave labor, you're always going to need more slaves)
To: wrrock
What other predictions has he made, and how good were they? Every bear or bull is eventually right.
34 posted on
06/17/2020 6:42:42 PM PDT by
aquila48
(Do not let them make you care! Guilting you is how they control you.)
To: wrrock
He said that stocks were overvalued in 2000 and again in 2007, anticipating those market downturns, the Wall Street Journal reports
Yeah, no shit. Everyone knew that. Who timed it, who acted on it, and who came back in at the right time?
37 posted on
06/17/2020 6:48:57 PM PDT by
nicollo
(I said no!)
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