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Exclusive: Tesla's secret batteries aim to rework the math for electric cars and the grid
Reuters ^ | 07 08 2020 | Norihiko Shirouzu, Paul Lienert

Posted on 06/08/2020 6:06:27 PM PDT by yesthatjallen

Electric car maker Tesla Inc (TSLA.O) plans to introduce a new low-cost, long-life battery in its Model 3 sedan in China later this year or early next that it expects will bring the cost of electric vehicles in line with gasoline models, and allow EV batteries to have second and third lives in the electric power grid.

For months, Tesla Chief Executive Elon Musk has been teasing investors, and rivals, with promises to reveal significant advances in battery technology during a “Battery Day” in late May.

New, low-cost batteries designed to last for a million miles of use and enable electric Teslas to sell profitably for the same price or less than a gasoline vehicle are just part of Musk’s agenda, people familiar with the plans told Reuters.

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Eventually, improved versions of the battery, with greater energy density and storage capacity and even lower cost, will be introduced in additional Tesla vehicles in other markets, including North America, the sources said.

Tesla’s plan to launch the new battery first in China and its broader strategy to reposition the company have not previously been reported. Tesla declined to comment.

Tesla’s new batteries will rely on innovations such as low-cobalt and cobalt-free battery chemistries, and the use of chemical additives, materials and coatings that will reduce internal stress and enable batteries to store more energy for longer periods, sources said.

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(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


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KEYWORDS: carbatteries; elonmusk; tesla
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

Go to the gas station. Fill up in 10-15 minutes. Drive 300-400 miles. Repeat as needed. “Problem” solved .


81 posted on 06/09/2020 5:22:01 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp???)
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To: hal ogen

Go to the barn, fill a feed bag with oats in minutes; ride 30 to 40 miles. Repeat as needed. Why bother with new-fangled horseless carriages?


82 posted on 06/09/2020 8:04:35 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: monkeyshine

I can see that happening — an opportunity for small business too. There are so many possibilities, it will be interesting to see how it all shakes out.


83 posted on 06/09/2020 8:09:10 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

Socalled “electric” vehicles have been around for 100 years. Such old technology...with a new coat of paint. ...and with massive subsidies and tax breaks.


84 posted on 06/09/2020 8:10:46 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp???)
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To: monkeyshine

Have you considered buying a ‘Morphie juice pack’ for your iPhone 6? It adds a bit of bulk; but, it would give you a lot more juice. They’re about $70 on Amazon. I think that’s cheaper than getting a new battery installed.


85 posted on 06/09/2020 8:16:12 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: hal ogen

I’m against the subsidies too — but, tech shouldn’t be political. Let the market decide.


86 posted on 06/09/2020 8:18:03 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: yesthatjallen

They will have to because Tesla is shite and their batteries are controlled by the Chi Coms.


87 posted on 06/09/2020 8:19:32 PM PDT by anton
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To: NotSoFreeStater

“Every month we get another miracle battery story.”

and it’s been that way for at least 30 years ... even before the internet ...


88 posted on 06/14/2020 1:54:43 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: TexasGator; marktwain; Ex gun maker.
My friend Jim loves his 2014 Mercedes-Benz B-Class Electric. It only has 87 miles of range, but Jim estimates that about 70% of his family’s annual vehicle miles are on the B-Class Electric. That’s why it was so disappointing when last year the motor started whining so severely that the car was nearly undrivable. To add insult to injury, the local Mercedes-Benz dealership quoted $18,000 to get it fixed by replacing the entire powertrain.

After scouring the internet, Jim discovered that a surprising number of the few thousand cars with early Tesla powertrains were experiencing similar problems. The three problematic models are first-gen Roadsters, Toyota RAV4 EVs, and Mercedes-Benz Electrics. Jim sent me these two links:

http://www.mybclasselectricdrive.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=644

http://www.myrav4ev.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=251&start=510

I replied with the names of Bay Area EV-loving mechanics to get a second opinion. And he discovered in one of the forums that QC Charge in San Marcos, California (about 30 miles north of San Diego) does repairs on those three early EVs that all use nearly identical versions of Tesla’s powertrain.

This is an issue with industrial electric motors when used on a VFD, bearing pitting. There are solutions such as shaft grounding brushes and insulated bearings.

https://electrek.co/2020/06/12/when-an-out-of-warranty-ev-fails-who-you-gonna-call/

89 posted on 06/16/2020 3:48:35 AM PDT by Lockbox
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