Oh I see — eliminate division by creating division. Yeah, I can see that. </sarc>
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Incrementalism. The left always wins something on every issue. The right always wants it to be all or nothing. Been a lot of nothing for decades now.
Everybody thank Nikki Haley...../s
I used to interpret the Confederate flag as a sign of rebellion. But I know the others interpret it as a sign of white supremacy. So I agree with the Marine order.
All this b.s. is making me want to go out and get a Confederate flag...
...and flaunt it.
These hypocritical self-righteous prigs.
Oh I see — eliminate division by creating division. Yeah, I can see that. </sarc>
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“Current events are a stark reminder that it is not enough for us to remove symbols that cause division — rather, we also must strive to eliminate division itself,”
Don’t let them tell you that protests, rioting and looting does not work.
WRONG!!!
Not commensurate with U.S. history.
The Civil War was a crucial part of our history, like it or not.
Had I lived in a different time and place, I would have been a Civil War reenactor. It was the bloodiest war in our history. And it is something I feel really close to. I may have been a soldier back then.
We cannot ever forget that.
On my honeymoon, my husband and I stayed at a former Civil War hospital; it was said to be haunted. We never heard anything, though. I do believe in reincarnation. Sorry, all.
Surrender means that the history of this heroic struggle will be written by the enemy; that our youth will be trained by Northern school teachers; will learn from Northern school books their version of the War; will be impressed by all the influences of history and education to regard our gallant dead as traitors, and our maimed veterans as fit subjects for derision.
Patrick Cleburne
I was going to purchase a movie for my wife and I to enjoy tonight, but I'm not going to until this in your face, race worship, is over and done. I have hundreds of great movies on DVD, and don't need multinational corporate justice warriors suggesting to me what I should watch next.
I hope you're reading this, Amazon...
Another BS order by a woke Marine General. I say this because a few years back, they tried this with the stickers that said Terrorist Hunting Licenses (because they may cause violence against Muslims) then a few years later they tried to ban the bumper stickers that read Leviticus 18:22 some just read 18:22. This was during the whole push by Obama and Mullen to force acceptance of the gay life style in the military. One particular case locally involved a sticker that read FUBO on a retirees car. The Base CG banned the stickers and PMO tried to deny a retiree access to the base, the General lost. It made the nightly news locally, mostly to whine about disrespecting the President. In every case the Corps had to back down because while military members may fall under UCMJ and have given up some of their First Amendment Rights, retirees, civilian employees and dependents do not lose their First Amendment rights just because they are on a Federal installation. Truth be told, those stickers and flags are rare on most military bases so this is just some look at me I am woke $hit by the CMC. Trump should order the Marine Corps to cut 25% of their Flag Officer billets by FY 2022, with the first 12.5 percent out the door by the end of the first quarter FY2021. They cannot accept Federal positions for a period after retirement so let them go find work in the civil sector so they have less time to foment insurrection against a President they do not like. What is it with these retired Navy Service Flag Officers behaving like they are implementing a coup. Looks like we made to many asshats Flag Officers during the war and need to return some billets to the O5 and O6 level.
On a Marine base.
I’m dead serious.
Despite the statement by the Marine general, an Army spokesman says, "We have no plans to rename any street or installation, including those named for Confederate generals." So far, probably waiting for the next riots. Then once they're finished purging the Confederates, the former slaveholders like Washington and Jefferson are next in line.
The Confederate battle flag has become divisive for people who embrace a modern, popular political agenda. A fashionable consensus has emerged of those deciding the existence of Americans, who served in the Confederate armed forces of 150 years ago, inflicts emotional damage on them today. It also includes those who adjust their actions to validate these perceptions of wounded identity. The instigators reside as fragments of a swarm trading away adulthood and dignity for a prestige lacking dreams to pursue or accomplishments to celebrate. The subservient, enabling parties receive effortless, addictive compassion as the drug of choice.
The Stars and Stripes and Stars and Bars decorate the graves of those who should be honored for having resolved an abandoned political issue. Britain abolished slavery throughout the Empire in 1833, but here politicians ignored the precedents of our founding documents, the accomplishments of Britain, and the rising influence of the infallibility and intransigence of abolitionists and planters. The myopic ideologies of these two factions stumbled us into the Civil War.
Whether referenced in statutes as Civil War (Union and Confederate), Spanish-American, WW I, WW II, Korean, Vietnam, or Desert Storm veterans, I maintain all are also brothers in arms for whom the term American veteran applies. When I visited Arlington Cemetery, I walked by the grave of Confederate unknown soldiers who served under the Stars and Bars. I think I will hold to this now unpopular position.
Partial Bibliography:
The Liberal Mind by Lyle H. Rossiter, Jr., M.D.
Miracle at Philadelphia by Catherine Drinker Bowen
Slavery Abolition Act 1833 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_Abolition_Act_1833
The Case Against Liberal Compassion https://imprimis.hillsdale.edu/the-case-against-liberal-compassion/
Confederate Soldiers Are Considered U.S. Veterans Under Federal Law-Truth! https://www.truthorfiction.com/confederate-soldiers-are-considered-u-s-veterans-under-federal-law/ Confederate Soldiers – American Veterans by Act of Congress https://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/04/03/confederate-soldiers-american-veterans-by-act-of-congress/ https://www.veteranstodayarchives.com/2011/04/14/confederate-soldiers-are-american-veterans-by-act-of-congress/
>> “’Current events are a stark reminder that it is not enough for us to remove symbols that cause division — rather, we also must strive to eliminate division itself,’ the commandant of the Marine Corps, Gen. David H. Berger, said in a statement on Wednesday”
That’s a recipe for totalitarianism.
Will they ban the Indian Confederate Battle Flags of the American Indians who sided with the Confederacy in the Civil War?
There are several you could fly all day and no one would know they were Confederate.
The tribes that made or were negotiating treaties with the Confederacy.
Cherokees, Creeks, Choctaws, Comanches, Wachitas, Kiowas, Pottawattamies, Chickasaws, Osages, Seminoles, Senecas, Shawnees, Quawpaws.
The South also had Indian agents operating all throughout the High Plains and mountain region stirring up other tribes such as the Sioux, Cheyenne, Navajo and Apaches to make war on the Union at that time.
Their traditional enemies, Pawnee, Kaw, Osage (well, part of them) remained loyal to the Union.
“There is little doubt that the recent outbreak in the Northwest (Minnesota Uprising)has resulted from the efforts of secession agents operating through Canadian Indians and fur-traders.”—Mr Giddings, US Counsul-general in Canada
General Karen Berger, Commandant of the Marine Corps
It's quite possible to recognize that slavery was a evil -- as almost everyone does -- while judging people of the past in the context of their societies. Confederates identified with their region (as Americans had in the American Revolution), and fought for what they recognized as their homeland. Though it's undeniable that the Confederacy gave special status to slavery, records show that most Confederate soldiers came from households that didn't own slaves.
Here's a poll that concluded -- "A majority of Americans want to preserve Confederate monuments: Reuters/Ipsos poll".
But antifa flags are ok.