U.S. Marine Corps Issues Ban on Confederate Battle Flags

New York Times ^ | 6/6/20 | Jenny Gross

[Meatspace]

The U.S. Marine Corps on Friday issued detailed directives about removing and banning public displays of the Confederate battle flag at Marine installations — an order that extended to such items as mugs, posters and bumper stickers.

“Current events are a stark reminder that it is not enough for us to remove symbols that cause division — rather, we also must strive to eliminate division itself,” the commandant of the Marine Corps, Gen. David H. Berger, said in a statement on Wednesday.

[yldstrk]

Are you literate?

[dfwgator]

[MuttTheHoople]

Guess this fella would be frog-marched out of the Corps.

[Bulwyf]

It’s called the war of northern aggression for a reason.

[amorphous]

Meanwhile Amazon sticks Black Movies in your face and prohibits you from hiding them, unlike other movies, as you can see by the X over the "They shall Not Grow Old" movie:

I was going to purchase a movie for my wife and I to enjoy tonight, but I'm not going to until this in your face, race worship, is over and done. I have hundreds of great movies on DVD, and don't need multinational corporate justice warriors suggesting to me what I should watch next.

I hope you're reading this, Amazon...

[aimhigh]

It’s about states’ rights.

When you use a state's right to promote evil slavery, you will lose that right.

Imagine the socialist Democrats create a civil war on the left coast. The army and patriots crush them. Would you be OK with the left coast putting up flags and statues for socialists after they lost?

[OldGoatCPO]

Another BS order by a woke Marine General. I say this because a few years back, they tried this with the stickers that said Terrorist Hunting Licenses (because they may cause violence against Muslims) then a few years later they tried to ban the bumper stickers that read Leviticus 18:22 some just read 18:22. This was during the whole push by Obama and Mullen to force acceptance of the gay life style in the military. One particular case locally involved a sticker that read FUBO on a retirees car. The Base CG banned the stickers and PMO tried to deny a retiree access to the base, the General lost. It made the nightly news locally, mostly to whine about disrespecting the President. In every case the Corps had to back down because while military members may fall under UCMJ and have given up some of their First Amendment Rights, retirees, civilian employees and dependents do not lose their First Amendment rights just because they are on a Federal installation. Truth be told, those stickers and flags are rare on most military bases so this is just some look at me I am woke $hit by the CMC. Trump should order the Marine Corps to cut 25% of their Flag Officer billets by FY 2022, with the first 12.5 percent out the door by the end of the first quarter FY2021. They cannot accept Federal positions for a period after retirement so let them go find work in the civil sector so they have less time to foment insurrection against a President they do not like. What is it with these retired Navy Service Flag Officers behaving like they are implementing a coup. Looks like we made to many asshats Flag Officers during the war and need to return some billets to the O5 and O6 level.

[OldGoatCPO]

Yes, it is their right under the First Amendment to do so. I do not have to like it or live where those displays exist.

[amorphous]

Imagine the socialist Democrats create a civil war on the left coast.

You mean like the celebrated MEChA and La Raza is trying to do in carving out a section of the USS to be called "Aztlan"?

Is this Marine Corp general banning their flag and colors?

[fwdude]

Next, they’ll be banning the U.S. flag in any display other than “official” ones, in case someone is offended.

On a Marine base.

I’m dead serious.

[dfwgator]

You know it’s coming, talk of wanting to redesign our flag to fit more “modern times”.

The Confederate Flag was just the start.

[Scrambler Bob]

But I know the others interpret it as a sign of white supremacy.
= = =

Problem is, next they will interpret the USA flag as a sign of white supremacy.

Well, they already have, but haven’t pushed it yet.

[GJones2]

As part of the reconciliation process after the war Southerners were allowed to treat the former Confederates with respect and to commemorate them. That helped bring about national unity, and they went on to serve disproportionately in later American wars. Now a cultural purge is taking place to eliminate one of the bases of that unity.

Despite the statement by the Marine general, an Army spokesman says, "We have no plans to rename any street or installation, including those named for Confederate generals." So far, probably waiting for the next riots. Then once they're finished purging the Confederates, the former slaveholders like Washington and Jefferson are next in line.

[Lurkinanloomin]

There is a statue of Lenin in Seattle.

[GJones2]

Here's a Wikipedia list of Army installations currently named for Confederates (note them while you can -- they are an endangered species):

Camp Beauregard near Pineville, Louisiana, named for Louisiana native and Confederate General Pierre Gustave Toutant Beauregard

Fort Benning, near Columbus, Georgia, named after Henry L. Benning, a brigadier general in the Confederate States Army during the Civil War

Fort Bragg in North Carolina, named for Confederate General Braxton Bragg

Fort Gordon near Grovetown, Georgia, named in honor of John Brown Gordon, who was a major general in the Confederate army, a Georgia governor, a U.S. senator, and a businessman

Fort A.P. Hill near Bowling Green, Virginia, named for Virginia native and Confederate Lieutenant General A. P. Hill

Fort Hood in Killeen, Texas, named after Confederate General John Bell Hood who is best known for commanding the Texas Brigade during the American Civil War

Fort Lee in Prince George County, Virginia, named for Confederate General Robert E. Lee

Fort Pickett near Blackstone, Virginia, named for the United States Army officer and Confederate General George Pickett

Fort Polk near Leesville, Louisiana, named in honor of the Right Reverend Leonidas Polk, the first Episcopal Bishop of the Diocese of Louisiana, and a distinguished Confederate General in the American Civil War

Fort Rucker in Dale County, Alabama, named for a Confederate General Edmund Rucker

[yldstrk]

That will be a tougher sell.

[Robocop5626]

Where do many of today’s service folk hail from? The Southern states. Tear down the monuments, outlaw the flag and the folks now saying even the American flag has no meaning so kneel during the anthem. May be better served to let the blue states do some of the heavy lifting these days. Don’t know if I would do five years on a naval warship these days.

[Retain Mike]

I am having a problem with this decision by the Marine Corps, if it can really be called that any longer. According to James A. Mitchener, the descendants of Confederate veterans were disproportionately represented in the Marine Corps of WW II as it grew from a few thousand men to six divisions. So, of all the Armed Forces the Corps would be the one most associated with that martial heritage, which Bruce Catton described as including the incomparable infantry of the Army of Northern Virginia.

The Confederate battle flag has become divisive for people who embrace a modern, popular political agenda. A fashionable consensus has emerged of those deciding the existence of Americans, who served in the Confederate armed forces of 150 years ago, inflicts emotional damage on them today. It also includes those who adjust their actions to validate these perceptions of wounded identity. The instigators reside as fragments of a swarm trading away adulthood and dignity for a prestige lacking dreams to pursue or accomplishments to celebrate. The subservient, enabling parties receive effortless, addictive compassion as the drug of choice.

The Stars and Stripes and Stars and Bars decorate the graves of those who should be honored for having resolved an abandoned political issue. Britain abolished slavery throughout the Empire in 1833, but here politicians ignored the precedents of our founding documents, the accomplishments of Britain, and the rising influence of the infallibility and intransigence of abolitionists and planters. The myopic ideologies of these two factions stumbled us into the Civil War.

Whether referenced in statutes as Civil War (Union and Confederate), Spanish-American, WW I, WW II, Korean, Vietnam, or Desert Storm veterans, I maintain all are also brothers in arms for whom the term American veteran applies. When I visited Arlington Cemetery, I walked by the grave of Confederate unknown soldiers who served under the Stars and Bars. I think I will hold to this now unpopular position.

Partial Bibliography:

The Liberal Mind by Lyle H. Rossiter, Jr., M.D.

Miracle at Philadelphia by Catherine Drinker Bowen

Slavery Abolition Act 1833 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_Abolition_Act_1833

The Case Against Liberal Compassion https://imprimis.hillsdale.edu/the-case-against-liberal-compassion/

Confederate Soldiers Are Considered U.S. Veterans Under Federal Law-Truth! https://www.truthorfiction.com/confederate-soldiers-are-considered-u-s-veterans-under-federal-law/ Confederate Soldiers – American Veterans by Act of Congress https://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/04/03/confederate-soldiers-american-veterans-by-act-of-congress/ https://www.veteranstodayarchives.com/2011/04/14/confederate-soldiers-are-american-veterans-by-act-of-congress/

[GJones2]

>> “’Current events are a stark reminder that it is not enough for us to remove symbols that cause division — rather, we also must strive to eliminate division itself,’ the commandant of the Marine Corps, Gen. David H. Berger, said in a statement on Wednesday”

That’s a recipe for totalitarianism.

[Scrambler Bob]

Some public schools banned kids wearing flag t-shirts.

Might offend someone (mooslimes and ‘undocumented’).

They got a little resistance, but not from the news media.