[Steve_Seattle]

I don't recall his name, but there is an older, left-wing black man who is usually paired with Candace Owens to debate issues on Fox News.

It gets heated sometimes, and I have to hit the mute button, but I was shocked the other night when he was extremely angry at the turn the protests have taken - the rioting and looting and violence. I give him credit for not trying to justify any of it, as so many on the left - both black and white - have been doing.

[HIDEK6]

That is Leo Terrell.

I was astounded to see that.