[mrsmith]

A REAL study found “no big deal”.
Good.

[catnipman]

this is a 100% bogus “study” ...

even CBS notes this caveat about this “study”:

“There are some big caveats: The study enrolled people through the Internet and social media, relying on them to report their own symptoms rather than having them tracked in a formal way by doctors. Participants were not all tested for the coronavirus but were diagnosed as COVID-19 cases based on symptoms in many cases. And not all took their medicines as directed.

The results “are more provocative than definitive,” and the drug may yet have prevention benefits if tried sooner or in a different way, Dr. Myron Cohen of the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill wrote in a commentary in the journal.”

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hydroxychloroquine-coronavirus-prevention-covid-19-study/

this isn’t a legitimate study, it’s just complete garbage CLAIMING to be a study ...

[CMAC51]

So, without prophylaxis, this incredibly contagious disease infected 14% of those exposed to it. I thought this was the most contagious disease God ever created.

[Maurice Tift]

It sounds like they gave it to people who were already exposed... and the control received ‘vitamins’ and not a sugar pill. Vitamin D?

[JohnBovenmyer]

The article I’d downloaded from NEJM yesterday on this did NOT include the word zinc. Where can I find their source for zinc discussion so as to better evaluate it?

[BeauBo]

So somewhat fewer people will contract the disease on HCQ (according to this study), but what about the other big concerns for managing the epidemic - like transmission rate, severity of illness and duration?

Does it keep symptoms lower in those infected (less life-threatening, relieving pressure on hospitals)?

Does it shorten the average duration?

Reduce the viral load? Transmission rates? Hospitalization, ventilator use or Mortality?

Does it flatten the curve, and reduce peak load on hospitals?

[marktwain]

The study enrolled people through the Internet and social media, relying on them to report their own symptoms rather than having them tracked in a formal way by doctors.

Pure garbage.

[Grimmy]

The effort that the criminal deep state put into quashing the meds proves to me plenty much that the meds worked just fine.

[CharlesWayneCT]

Just Another Second Hand site reporting it the same bad study, and that the study ask a question nobody had raised which is can hcq and zinc stop an infection 4 days after you’re exposed. The two uses we have for hcq the first is possibly taking it before you get exposed long enough to build up a protection against exposure which this test didn’t test. The second is after you are positively infected can hc2 and zinc reduce the number of days it takes to get better which this study didn’t check

[usconservative]

A single clinical trial won’t fully settle the question, especially with the relatively smallish sample in the UM study. If anything, these findings should encourage more study, as it’s now clear that the Lancet study that set off warnings about research on hydroxychloroquine was based on false data;

Given the small size of the study, this seems to be a reasonable approach to me.

My sister in law takes HCQ for her Lupus and she's been taking it for more than 20 years. I've not asked her about any side effects such as nausea and all I can really say about it is this: she's an energizer bunny. That woman works her butt off all day long, has raised two daughters and one son, gives a sh*t ton back to her church and community and she just never seems to stop. If there's any side effects from her taking HCQ they're pretty darn hard to see. Aside from her Lupus she's the very picture of health.

So there are certainly cases where HCQ does indeed help people and improve their quality of life. Ask any one of the millions and millions of people who take it on a daily basis for malaria.

[Crucial]

If there was no benefit, why fake the previous studies? Something smells about this study.

[Lou L]

With ALL the COVID-19 patients we've had to date, I would really like to see a trial that does the following:

- develop a scale to assess the degree of illness with COVID-19. Could be simple, maybe 0-5, 0 being completely free of COVID-19 symptoms; 5 meaning death. Each grade between 0-5 could represent an increasing level of severity with symptoms.

- has several arms: a standard of care or control arm, treated with medicines other than HCQ; an HCQ arm; an HCQ + Azithromicin arm; and an HCQ + Azithro + Zinc arm.

- treats moderately to severely ill patients; i.e., those that sought medical care at either a hospital or doctor's office.

When the patient is recommended to the trial by a referring physician, the patient is assessed according to the scale. The patient is then randomly assigned to an arm of the trial, and will receive both daily assessments according to the scale, and an assessment at the end of their treatment, according to outcome.

I work in research and development for a pharmaceutical company. I'm not a doctor, but I've supported enough clinical trials that a design like this should be a no-brainer. It's a shame that HCQ has been politicized the way it has in the developed world--the world that supposedly "embraces science."

[Nifty]

No one ever hyped this as a miracle drug. PERIOD. That claim was fabricated by the MSM to make it appear (Trump et al) did.