...how it plays out...
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It’s been awhile for me, but doesn’t each 4th turning carry the seeds of the next 1st one?
I’d guess it depends who wins.
Right now, the majority of the prog population lives in CA, NY, & maybe IL (?). Add blue cities in red states. How many are illegal? How many of those have left? How many who stayed contribute to the state finances? What do the Blue areas do with a destroyed infrastructure, no income, and no Federal bailout?
$100B from the oligarchs won’t touch their debt.
How long does a job, the weather, family who won’t move, keep the productive in slavery?
We’re going to find out. I give them 2 years.
yes on the seeds being present at the start
the authors of the book insist that the seed that is always present is the American spirit - which is a good thing for human freedom
however
what is frightening of the whole 4th turning notion is that it results in decisive victory for one side, and decisive defeat for the other side
since there is no geographic isolation of the two teams at war here (unlike the Am Rev, the Civil War, and WWII), then it’s hard to see how decisive victory for either side doesn’t involve near complete total destruction for lots of infrastructure, capital and people.....not to mention systems (written and unwritten), relationships and know-how
of course I am also working through Walking Dead (!) so no doubt my apocalyptic views here are magnified by that.