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Virginia governor to announce removal of Lee statue
AP via WSPA ^ | June 3, 2020 | ALAN SUDERMAN and SARAH RANKIN

Posted on 06/03/2020 2:52:57 PM PDT by buckalfa

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To: buckalfa

My solution. History will now only last either 18 months or as long as boy bands stay together, whichever comes first. All statues can only be inflatables and easily replaced due to public whims at the moment.


81 posted on 06/03/2020 3:48:20 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (Free the TVs!)
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To: AllAmericanGirl44

His posts usually are...


82 posted on 06/03/2020 3:48:50 PM PDT by rockrr ( Everything is different now...)
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To: DiogenesLamp

“Trouble is, the Republicans of that era were the race obsessed big city liberals of their day.”

The fruits of which we are still witnessing to this very day.


83 posted on 06/03/2020 3:48:55 PM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: sauropod

That won’t happen as long as DC has gotten “bigger” and extended its tentacles into northern VA.


84 posted on 06/03/2020 3:49:10 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs)
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To: AllAmericanGirl44
August 9, 1960

Dear Dr. Scott:

Respecting your August 1 inquiry calling attention to my often expressed admiration for General Robert E. Lee, I would say, first, that we need to understand that at the time of the War between the States the issue of secession had remained unresolved for more than 70 years. Men of probity, character, public standing and unquestioned loyalty, both North and South, had disagreed over this issue as a matter of principle from the day our Constitution was adopted.

General Robert E. Lee was, in my estimation, one of the supremely gifted men produced by our Nation. He believed unswervingly in the Constitutional validity of his cause which until 1865 was still an arguable question in America; he was a poised and inspiring leader, true to the high trust reposed in him by millions of his fellow citizens; he was thoughtful yet demanding of his officers and men, forbearing with captured enemies but ingenious, unrelenting and personally courageous in battle, and never disheartened by a reverse or obstacle. Through all his many trials, he remained selfless almost to a fault and unfailing in his faith in God. Taken altogether, he was noble as a leader and as a man, and unsullied as I read the pages of our history.

From deep conviction, I simply say this: a nation of men of Lee’s calibre would be unconquerable in spirit and soul. Indeed, to the degree that present-day American youth will strive to emulate his rare qualities, including his devotion to this land as revealed in his painstaking efforts to help heal the Nation’s wounds once the bitter struggle was over, we, in our own time of danger in a divided world, will be strengthened and our love of freedom sustained.

Such are the reasons that I proudly display the picture of this great American on my office wall.

Sincerely,

Dwight D. Eisenhower

85 posted on 06/03/2020 3:50:56 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: rockrr

Hey Rockrr did you fly into Richmond and help deface the good generals statue?


86 posted on 06/03/2020 3:53:09 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: Bonemaker
NOT in any remote stretch of the imagination in terms of our understanding of the term today.

In every way the democrats from then are the same as today. Both were willing to split the country and kill in order to retain what they thought they were entitled to.

The only difference is that the democrats of today can't come out and say they're for slavery, but the way their supporters ignore the misery of living in Democrat run cities makes it clear they still are.

87 posted on 06/03/2020 3:53:23 PM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (Prayers for our country and President Trump)
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To: Steely Tom
If I got it wrong that the Democrats were the pro-slavery party and the Republicans were against it, say so.

Well, the Republicans weren't exactly against it, though they repeatedly said so in public in the same manner the lying democrats do it today. The Republicans wanted to keep the money flowing in from slavery so they could spend it on their government projects and crony friends.

Thomas Corwin of Ohio and William Seward of New York led the efforts to pass the Corwin amendment which would have protected slavery in the USA. It passed both the house and Senate and was ratified by five northern states. Lincoln not only urged it's passage in his first inaugural address, he took the unusual step of writing letters to each of the governors informing them that the Corwin Amendment had passed the Congress and needed to be ratified by the states.

So no, they really weren't against slavery. They just pretended to be against it for the benefit of their stupid voters, you know, like the Democrats do today.

88 posted on 06/03/2020 3:55:24 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: MplsSteve

Arthur Ashe is going to get awfully lonely.


89 posted on 06/03/2020 3:58:13 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: buckalfa
“Lee was the noblest American who had ever lived and one of the greatest commanders known to the annals of war.”

---Sir Winston Churchill

90 posted on 06/03/2020 3:58:42 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: central_va
You must have me confused with one of your fellow Virginians.
91 posted on 06/03/2020 3:59:38 PM PDT by rockrr ( Everything is different now...)
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To: Bonemaker
The fruits of which we are still witnessing to this very day.

So many people don't realize how our nation today is shaped by the events of that conflict. It gave us abortion, banned prayer in public schools, created homosexual marriage, made it illegal for a farmer to grow his own wheat for his own cows, and countless other disasters and idiocies stemming from the realignment of the relationship between the Federal government and the States.

Yes, the Civil war seriously changed the relationship between the Federal and the people, and not for the benefit of the people... unless you are a fat cat corruptocrat.

92 posted on 06/03/2020 4:00:03 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DoodleDawg

I am sure you are happy about Chief Black Face’s decision to go full Taliban on Lee.


93 posted on 06/03/2020 4:00:14 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: rockrr
You chose to pretend not to understand them, but I perceive you do whether you wish to admit it or not.
94 posted on 06/03/2020 4:01:09 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: central_va

“Washington, DC to be renamed. You watch.”

Mandela, DC...


95 posted on 06/03/2020 4:01:25 PM PDT by Does so (George Floyd a CO-poisoning victim?)
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To: rockrr
Never go full Taliban.


96 posted on 06/03/2020 4:01:45 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: silverleaf
And Lincoln’s General US Grant who led the northern army, also owned slaves, through his wife’s family

No, he didn't. He owned one and freed him. All other slaves remained the property of his father-in-law though Julia Grant had use of them.

97 posted on 06/03/2020 4:02:17 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DiogenesLamp

I choose to acknowledge them for the bullshyt they are.


98 posted on 06/03/2020 4:02:31 PM PDT by rockrr ( Everything is different now...)
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To: DiogenesLamp; AllAmericanGirl44

Excuse me. No. That’s not how this nation was founded. Your sentence looks like it could’ve been written by Van Jones of CNN.

The Confederate Constitution explicitly makes clear that slavery is a dominant motivating factor of why it was formed in the first place, and prior to the actual war as much was also said and written by those who formed the Confederacy. Anybody who reads it can see this.

By contrast, even among slave-holding Founders it was considered an embarrassment and an outmoded institution forced on us by generations of monarchs. Jefferson’s torching of the King in the original draft of the Declaration is probably the highest profile example of what the Founders wrote about their ill feelings about slavery, but TJ was hardly alone.

Additionally, words did lead to action. Pennsylvania abolished slavery and the war with Britain wasn’t even over yet.

Point is, going into as well as coming out of independence the Founders were on the opposite side as the Confederacy. There is no equivalency, other than to revisionists such as yourself.


99 posted on 06/03/2020 4:03:08 PM PDT by ProgressingAmerica (Public meetings are superior to newspapers)
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To: Does so

This never ends. They are never gong to be happy. Beware ladies we are heading for full burka and second class citizenship for women...


100 posted on 06/03/2020 4:03:40 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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