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To: chris37
Asphyxia causes visible indicators on the body. They indicators are either there, or they are not.

Well, for one thing the MN examiner could simply be lying. This would be my bet.

Another thing to consider is that a blood choke will have different and more subtle indicators than an air choke. The MN examiner appears to have weasel-worded the preliminary report. The revised version seems to back off quite a bit from the original conclusions and does not exonerate the Officer.

The video shows a position that would have compressed the carotid artery, causing a blood choke. Even while not directly causing death, this can induce a heart attack which may cause death.

I believe that the Officer caused this death by deliberately using an unsound, unsafe, and unnecessary control technique. I am astonished and dismayed that that same technique is still included in the rules and procedures book.

54 posted on 06/01/2020 4:00:55 PM PDT by flamberge (The wheels keep turning)
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To: flamberge

That is my belief as well from watching the video. They might have revived him if Chauvin had gotten off him immediately when he went limp, but that addition nearly 3 minutes sealed it.


60 posted on 06/01/2020 4:06:02 PM PDT by Valpal1
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To: flamberge

We will train you on how to do restraining techniques, but if you use them and someone dies, you will be charged with murder. Ok, let's do this.


64 posted on 06/01/2020 4:10:39 PM PDT by Tommy Revolts
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To: flamberge

“I believe that the Officer caused this death by deliberately using an unsound, unsafe, and unnecessary control technique. I am astonished and dismayed that that same technique is still included in the rules and procedures book.”

I also believe this. Furthermore, for him not to even get up at all while the man complains is outrageous. And it furthered angered me how they cradled his head. I know they knew he was dead right then.

I would not want to walk this earth in Derek Chauvin’s shoes. His soul is damned. Why did he do that?


119 posted on 06/01/2020 5:40:50 PM PDT by chris37 (China's Gift wasn't born in a bowl of bat soup.)
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