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BET founder Robert Johnson calls for $14 trillion of reparations for slavery
CNBC ^ | June 1, 2020 | Matthew J. Belvedere

Posted on 06/01/2020 9:23:49 AM PDT by C19fan

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To: Zhang Fei
Keynes ginned up a whole industry around blaming the West for German territorial ambitions. Nothing wrong with ambition, given that all countries everywhere favored territorial expansion in that era, but blaming the West for German ambition was just off the wall.

Before the First World War British officials interpreted every German move as aggressive and hostile, while the British and French were busy gobbling up territory on their own. Historians picked up on that after the war.

Germans wanting to build a Berlin to Baghdad railroad was considered aggressive. Britons building a Cape to Cairo railroad was just the way things were. It was an aggressive provocation for the Kaiser to send a telegram of support to the South African leader for fending off a British raid. Britain crushing the South African Boer republics was the march of progress.

I don't think it was that dissenters were trying to blame German aggressiveness on "the West," but they were trying to put it into context. There was much that was wrong about what the Germans did, but there was an awful lot of blindness and hypocrisy among the British and the French for not seeing the parallels between the Germans and themselves.

101 posted on 06/01/2020 11:04:36 AM PDT by x
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To: C19fan

Screw him


102 posted on 06/01/2020 11:11:31 AM PDT by AlphaOneAlpha
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To: kaehurowing
Since my great-great-grandfather died fighting against slavery in the Civil War, where do they send my check??

Ending slavery was not a goal of the war until nearly two years after it started. Even then, it was only for those areas still in "rebellion." Areas under Union control could still have slavery.

When the Northern states launched their invasion of the Southern states, they intended to leave slavery completely intact. Their only goal was to stop the Southern states from becoming independent of Washington DC, and nothing else.

103 posted on 06/01/2020 11:11:44 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: cuban leaf
I’d say the hundreds of thousands of white Americans that gave their lives to free the slaves in the civil war are reparations enough.

They didn't give their lives for that purpose. They gave their lives to make certain that the corrupt boot of the Washington DC "establishment" could remain firmly on the neck of the states producing money from trade with Europe.

They didn't make the war about slavery until nearly two years after it had started, and even then, they did not eradicate slavery in areas under Union control.

We've all been fed a lie that the war was about slavery. No, the war was about the Economic power of the Washington DC/ New York elite. Same people we are fighting today.

104 posted on 06/01/2020 11:16:13 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: skimbell
And since slavery was only south of the M-D line, make the payment in old Confederate currency.

Actually, when the nation was founded, all the states were slave states. There was no such thing as a "free" state in 1776.

105 posted on 06/01/2020 11:19:06 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: BookmanTheJanitor

Like Danegeld, eh?


106 posted on 06/01/2020 11:19:20 AM PDT by silverleaf (Great Things Never Come from Comfort Zones)
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To: lee martell

What about the Irish and the Chinese and the Japanese and the Italians and the Poles etc?

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How about we Huguenots? France owes us big time.


107 posted on 06/01/2020 11:26:04 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Best left handed banjo picker on my entire block)
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To: x

[Before the First World War British officials interpreted every German move as aggressive and hostile, while the British and French were busy gobbling up territory on their own. Historians picked up on that after the war.

Germans wanting to build a Berlin to Baghdad railroad was considered aggressive. Britons building a Cape to Cairo railroad was just the way things were. It was an aggressive provocation for the Kaiser to send a telegram of support to the South African leader for fending off a British raid. Britain crushing the South African Boer republics was the march of progress.

I don’t think it was that dissenters were trying to blame German aggressiveness on “the West,” but they were trying to put it into context. There was much that was wrong about what the Germans did, but there was an awful lot of blindness and hypocrisy among the British and the French for not seeing the parallels between the Germans and themselves. ]


Territorial expansion is a zero sum game. The Brits and the French were right to interpret German moves as hostile, just as surely as they were right to interpret Russian moves against the Ottomans as hostile, which is why they got involved in the Crimean War. This isn’t a question of morality - it’s a question of interests and whether they should have let the Germans roll over them.

We view Chinese moves in the Far East as hostile because we don’t want the Chinese adding numerous provinces amounting to a billion people and 2 million square miles to their war-making resources. Again, not a question of morality, but pure power politics. If they become relatively stronger, we become relatively weaker.


108 posted on 06/01/2020 11:28:28 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: shelterguy

My ancestors came from Poland and Ukraine. None of us ever owned slaves so “Shut up”.

Why were black owned businesses attacked?


109 posted on 06/01/2020 11:29:34 AM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Gone but not forgiven.)
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To: DiogenesLamp

You know that and I know that, but...


110 posted on 06/01/2020 11:29:42 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The political war playing out in every country now: Globalists vs Nationalists)
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To: C19fan

The day this gets implemented is the day I stop working , stop paying taxes, Go Galt, and no longer do a single solitary productive thing for society ever again.


111 posted on 06/01/2020 11:31:19 AM PDT by LizardQueen (The world is not out to get you, except in the sense that the world is out to get everyone.)
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To: C19fan

The day this gets implemented is the day I stop working , stop paying taxes, Go Galt, and no longer do a single solitary productive thing for society ever again.


112 posted on 06/01/2020 11:31:20 AM PDT by LizardQueen (The world is not out to get you, except in the sense that the world is out to get everyone.)
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To: C19fan

Slavery is in every... EVERY culture and society and civilization in World History. Period.

It is not a particular instance in only Africans, blacks or any other civilization or group.

This BET executive is extending his current political money as speech to apply to his own particular “group”. And does so in yet another shaming of only.... “white” owners. Why, for instance does he not direct his money against EXISTING contemporary slavery as practiced in the Middle East, on Madagascar, Ethiopia, Somalia? Because it gets him ZERO personal power in US politics (and ego strokes that come with that). Human Trafficking— world wide paedophilia, children, Tutsis and Hutus, and ... lest we forget MUSLIM run human trafficking of Yazidi Christian little girls.

Give it a REST— Mr. Black Entertainment (it’s all about me and the largely absent obi-won-kenyobi fraud).


113 posted on 06/01/2020 11:35:29 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: C19fan

How much does he get?
He is a billionaire and I “BET’ he won’t part with a dime of his money to anyone and would be the first to call the police to save him and his property from the criminals that show up to reparations from him.


114 posted on 06/01/2020 11:38:25 AM PDT by minnesota_bound (homeless guy. He just has more money....He the master will plant more cotton for the democrat party)
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To: Zhang Fei
For a long time the story was that Britain formed alliances with France because it was frightened of Germany's rising power. Recent historians point out that Britain signed treaties with France and Russia not because it was worried about war with Germany, but because it was worried about war with France and Russian over colonial possessions. Once Britain was caught up in the system of alliances it came to view Germany as a threat, and it magnified that threat and came to see the treaties as an alliance against Germany.

I don't deny that it takes two to have a conflict and two to make peace, and that German rhetoric could be taken as threatening, but calmer heads in Britain recognized that Germany had to be accommodated in the early years of the century, and the failure to do so did a lot to bring on the eventual war. French interests conflicted with those of Germany. English interests, not so much, and Britain could have played a more moderating role in world affairs than it did. I'm not letting Germany off the hook for any of this - maybe nothing would have brought the Germans to the bargaining table - but the blame Germany school has been so prominent that a little pushback is necessary.

115 posted on 06/01/2020 11:40:58 AM PDT by x
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To: cuban leaf
You know that and I know that, but...

I didn't know it for most of my life. I didn't really understand it until the last few years or so.

I hate the fact that I and others have been misled, and so much public policy has been the consequence of a falsehood.

116 posted on 06/01/2020 11:43:08 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: C19fan

Does this mean Harry and Meghan get to keep Tyler Perry’s mansion?


117 posted on 06/01/2020 11:43:21 AM PDT by silverleaf (Great Things Never Come from Comfort Zones)
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To: C19fan

Nothing will ever be enough for people on welfare their whole lives that constantly riot and were never slaves.

Entitlement is an ugly thing.


118 posted on 06/01/2020 11:43:29 AM PDT by Trillian
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To: DiogenesLamp

Yep. I see it this way: Before the war the US was like a brick wall of states held together by a bead of mortar. Now it is a wall of mortar with fifty little marbles pressed into it.

At least that is the way it is in most people’s minds. In my mind it is like the EU, but with actual armed forces. That is, it is fifty mostly sovereign countries governed by an overarching constitution and bill of rights. That’s why I ignored “US” statistics on CV19 and separated NY from my country, Kentucky, as I would Spain from Denmark.

It’s why I don’t blame trump for the rioting, but blame the individual chiefs of police and mayors - who all happen to be democrats, BTW.


119 posted on 06/01/2020 11:58:22 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The political war playing out in every country now: Globalists vs Nationalists)
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To: C19fan

pretty sure we’ve easily already exceeded that amount over the years.


120 posted on 06/01/2020 11:59:22 AM PDT by 1Old Pro (#openupstateny)
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