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China and India face off on the roof of the world
BBC News ^ | 05/31/2020

Posted on 05/31/2020 8:43:23 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

The armies of the world's two most populous nations are locked in a tense face-off high in the Himalayas, which has the potential to escalate as they seek to further their strategic goals.

Officials quoted by the Indian media say thousands of Chinese troops have forced their way into Galwan valley in Ladakh, in the disputed Kashmir region.

Indian leaders and military strategists have clearly been left stunned.

The reports say that in early May, Chinese forces put up tents, dug trenches, and moved heavy equipment several kilometers inside what had been regarded by India as its territory. The move came after India built a road several hundred kilometers long connecting to a high-altitude forward airbase which it reactivated in 2008.

The message from China appears clear to observers in Delhi - this is not a routine incursion.

"The situation is serious. The Chinese have come into territory which they themselves accepted as part of India. It has completely changed the status quo," says Ajai Shukla, an Indian military expert who served as a colonel in the army.

China takes a different view, saying it's India which has changed facts on the ground.

India and China share a border more than 3,440km (2,100 miles) long and have overlapping territorial claims. Their border patrols often bump into each other, resulting in occasional scuffles but both sides insist no bullet has been fired in four decades.

Their armies - two of the world's largest - come face to face at many points. The poorly demarcated Line of Actual Control (LAC) separates the two sides. Rivers, lakes and snowcaps mean the line separating soldiers can shift and they often come close to confrontation.

The current military tension is not limited to Ladakh. Soldiers from the two sides are also eyeball-to-eyeball in Nathu La,

(Excerpt) Read more at msn.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: china; galwanvalley; himalayas; india; kashmir; ladakh; pakistan
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To: cloudmountain

When India was getting independence and being partitioned, Kashmir has a Hindu maharajah leading a mostly Muslim population. The maharajah acceded to India, contrary to the wishes of the people.


21 posted on 05/31/2020 11:34:22 AM PDT by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters.)
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To: TBP; cloudmountain

RE: . The maharajah acceded to India, contrary to the wishes of the people.

OK, why is China involved in this dispute?


22 posted on 05/31/2020 12:10:37 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: TBP
When India was getting independence and being partitioned, Kashmir has a Hindu maharajah leading a mostly Muslim population. The maharajah acceded to India, contrary to the wishes of the people.

Is that right?

23 posted on 05/31/2020 12:10:46 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: SeekAndFind
RE: . The maharajah acceded to India, contrary to the wishes of the people.
OK, why is China involved in this dispute?

Picky, picky, picky. Lol.
I didn't follow the logic either. YOU picked up on the most glaring obfuscation.

24 posted on 05/31/2020 12:13:27 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: Phil DiBasquette
Who do you think gave them the nukes, duh!

Since I haven't been following this very carefully, OK, AT ALL, I don't know.
So, WHO gave them the nukes?

25 posted on 05/31/2020 12:15:12 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: cloudmountain

One word: CHYNA


26 posted on 05/31/2020 12:27:13 PM PDT by Phil DiBasquette
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To: Phil DiBasquette
One word: CHYNA

Huh?

27 posted on 05/31/2020 2:52:10 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: cloudmountain

China enabled them (gave them material and the instructions)


28 posted on 05/31/2020 5:06:40 PM PDT by Phil DiBasquette
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To: Phil DiBasquette
China enabled them (gave them material and the instructions)

Really? The Chinese and Indian borders have been a sore point for a long time, I think.

29 posted on 05/31/2020 5:12:11 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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My statement was re how Pakistan got nukes.
Why? In the Cold War era W/E Pakistan was our ally
Constantly fighting with their Indian brethren
(Soviet leaning) over Kashmir etc.

After they got beat down @71 war and E
Pakistan severed they endeavoured to get a
nuke knowing India was trying too
China gave it to them possibly as a counter to India


30 posted on 05/31/2020 5:32:08 PM PDT by Phil DiBasquette
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