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To: VanDeKoik

You are assuming that he died because of the knee to the neck. We don’t know if that is the case. We also don’t know what precipitated 3 cops holding him down. Conveniently our watchdog media has not found any video showing WHY the 3 officers pinned him to the ground. Did they think he was on PCP? That he might hurt himself or others even while handcuffed?
Obviously kneeling on the neck was excessive. My gut is that the officer did it not out of spite but as a way to pin the guy down while at the same time being in a position to be able to watch the crowd that was starting to gather In other words as a safety precaution for himself and the other officers. Not saying he was right. But based on his demeanor, I believe that was his motive.
Until we see an autopsy and more video we should withhold judgment. I am open minded.


39 posted on 05/29/2020 4:50:10 AM PDT by bort
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To: bort

Looking at the video:

Guy alive when knee went on neck. Guy clearly saying he cant breathe. Dead by the time knee came off 8 minutes later.

You: “You are assuming that he died because of the knee to the neck. We don’t know if that is the case.”


45 posted on 05/29/2020 4:55:34 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: bort

That’s another good point these idiots start gathering around cops and yelling at them and holding up their phones it’s like they put themselves and everyone else in a bad situation that causes a lot of tension and it’s not a good thing. So there is no video on why he wound up on the ground? we don’t see anything about the interaction that caused Floyd to wind up on the ground?


49 posted on 05/29/2020 5:00:23 AM PDT by snarkytart
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To: bort

I try hard to discount conspiracy theories but a lot of people are claiming that this is all a hoax and was staged. I refuse to believe that because it makes no sense to me but if this guy gets a closed coffin funeral I will reconsider.


86 posted on 05/29/2020 7:03:25 AM PDT by New Jersey Realist (Those who give up some freedom for some liberty deserve neither.)
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To: bort
We also don’t know what precipitated 3 cops holding him down. Conveniently our watchdog media has not found any video showing WHY the 3 officers pinned him to the ground.

That bothers me a lot. I have looked for video covering the period between the security video of Floyd sitting against a wall and the cell phone video of Floyd on the ground. I assume that video exists but is intentionally not being made public. Whether the police have it and are embarrassed or leftists have it and it refutes the narrative is something we don't know, but that time gap is important.

My personal inclinations? I shoot with a number of good cops - people I like and trust. I have encountered bad cops - thugs who are corrupt and frighten me because they carry a badge. There is good and bad in most groups, including police (who are mostly good). I don't know enough to judge this situation, and I assume the necessary information is being intentionally withheld.

92 posted on 05/29/2020 7:38:16 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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