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To: ConservativeMind
This is not a “Zombie” disease where everyone who is touched, dies. South Korea did statistical sampling with antibody testing three months ago and proved a death rate of 0.6% from the infected population.

So South Korea found that the death rate from all coronaviruses combined is only 0.6%? Fine, but what is their death rate from Covid-19?

Oh, it was 2.383%. I get that from the actual case data.

267 deaths / 11,206 cases x 100 = 2.383%.

The problem with antibodies is that they can't tell the difference between related viruses. So an antibody study is useless for determining who has had Covid-19.

We were told to “flatted the curve,” which means just about everyone will get it, but more slowly, allowing hospitals to treat within what they can handle. This was never, “Stop Until No One Gets It.”

Flattening the growth curve actually does mean getting rid of the disease. That is and remains the focus of the pandemic response, regardless of interim goals along the way. When no more people catch the disease, the curve becomes completely flat.

We have eliminated diseases before, and we can eliminate this one.

52 posted on 05/25/2020 8:15:05 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org)
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To: exDemMom
Flattening the growth curve actually does mean getting rid of the disease.

You lie. You straight up lied. What you said is a lie, you liar. You should be ashamed.

53 posted on 05/25/2020 8:39:46 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (They are openly stating that they intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live.)
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To: exDemMom

The beauty of a statistical sample is that if it is done of a general population make up, you can infer it represents the entire population. Thus, South Korea’s test effectively attested to its whole country, meaning you don’t have to test everyone to know, so your “actual” numbers are no where near what the truth in the population would be. You are assuming the only people who got COVID in South Korea are those who had an explicit test.

I cannot quickly find if their test used bad measures, but I can say they used the WHO test for their real-time positive tests:

https://www.propublica.org/article/how-south-korea-scaled-coronavirus-testing-while-the-us-fell-dangerously-behind

It’s possible South Korea with the WHO guidance did antibody testing all wrong, but what we do know is that your numbers reflect only tested people, meaning no one not tested had COVID-19 in your approach.

I don’t think your approach holds any water to the truth, on its face. You are assuming perfect knowledge.


54 posted on 05/25/2020 8:41:55 AM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: exDemMom

Flattening the curve does NOT mean eradication. It means lowering the peak enough that the health system is not overloaded. The health system nationwide is currently UNDER utilized and in danger of bankruptcy.

https://www.livescience.com/amp/coronavirus-flatten-the-curve.html

We have passed the peak, and cases and deaths per day are declining. Therefore what we SHOULD be doing is relaxing lockdown, as long as deaths do not start climbing rapidly again.


55 posted on 05/25/2020 9:12:34 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (A Leftist can't enjoy life unless they are controlling, hurting, or destroying others)
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