Posted on 05/22/2020 3:57:56 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
since we know the agenda of the Left is to have the reported cases come in as high as possible and since we have already seen several States drop the number of deaths by as much as 25% (Colorado is one) and since even Birx has stated the death count is 25% higher than it really is and that she doesn’t have faith in anything coming from the CDC I believe a strong disclaimer ought to preface the reporting of what is becoming an ever increasingly Armageddon report.
Deaths should be more accurately reported by being broken out as those who died EXCLUSIVELY from CHINA VIRUS and those who had co morbidity conditions which may have been exacerbated by the China Virus.
“an ever increasingly Armageddon report”
Total number of “cases” is not greatly important, anymore than is the total number of cases of the seasonal flu, in as much in both cases MOST 80-90+% either have little reaction, a mild reaction, a mild illness, or an illness they recover from in the hospital. Same as with the flu.
The ONLY important numbers are hospitalizations and deaths.
Both are higher this first year of the Wuhan Virus because the medical community is still finalizing the best medical responses to the Wuhan Virus, and they are improving steadily every week.
Already it is clear the hospital system is NOT overwhelmed,
What that means it is now handling the current hospitalization case load without being overwhelmed.
As the number of known cases increases with testing, the death rate per X number of people declines.
NOTHING in it all is “Armageddon”.
The real problem isn’t “deaths”, it’s “active cases”.
All new + PCR tests become a “case”. What is unknown is, how many “new cases” are actually long-term asymptomatic persons with IgG antibody, i.e., non-infectious but persistently or intermittently PCR +?
Korea calls the latter ones “re-positives”, and has nicely demonstrated that they are not infectious.
This has HUGE implications for containment. How much of the increase in “cases” is due to more PCR testing (finding non-infectious people) and how much is due to spread of infection occurring right now?
The fact is, we don’t know.
I need your help. You’ve been navigating the JH data for some weeks now. I got lost in their web pages for the Covid-19 maps/data this morning.
I am trying to get their raw U.S. data for all the U.S. counties. I’d prefer if you can lead me to your JH source table(s) than to have to get it second hand from you. I am guessing maybe???? they have more than just 200 of the U.S. counties. I want to crunch some numbers myself. Thanks in advance.
Yesterday, there was a posting on FR that Belgium was counting anyone who died in a nursing home as a covid death.
I have been watching Belgium for some time and could not understand why Belgium was reporting 800 deaths per million while their neighbor Germany was reporting 100 deaths per million.
On May 17th WAPO came to Belgium’s rescue with the claim that Belgium might actually be the most accurate.
We need to keep in mind the Brussels, Belgium is the capital of the EU so it could be conjectured that Belgium is setting the ‘tone’ for the rest of the EU to make covid worse than it is and use that ‘made up fact’ as the basis for totally removing any remnant of free enterprise from Europe.
“””Belgian officials have sought to tamp down concern by suggesting their chart-topping numbers are products of their accounting methods and commitment to capturing an accurate picture of their outbreak. Other ways of estimating virus-related deaths suggest that the Belgian method might indeed turn out to be among the most accurate in the world, and that other countries may be significantly undercounting their death tolls.”””
I think that’s an excellent analysis. The graphs show that despite the continued progression of the disease through the population at a steady rate, the medical profession now knows much more about treating it. And I expect continued reduction in the mortality rates. In fact, if we could get politics out of medicine, we would find that this is actually a very treatable disease.
One other item that appears, and which is disappointing, is that while warm weather may be helping against the spread, it’s not tamping it down the way seasonal colds and flu normally do. It appears we are going to be at this steady state, or slow decline, most of the summer.
“One other item that appears, and which is disappointing, is that while warm weather may be helping against the spread, it’s not tamping it down the way seasonal colds and flu normally do. It appears we are going to be at this steady state, or slow decline, most of the summer.”
Time will tell of course.
The overall tone of the report is gloom and doom which mirrors the media reporting.
States are opening up left right and center and more and more people are effectively saying to their local and State Gov “GFY”
Not saying the report shouldn’t be offered as it is but only that a disclaimer be issued stating the numbers of deaths attributable to China Virus is questionable at best.
Regarding the CDC provisional death numbers.
As we all know the CDC Provisional death numbers are those deaths that have been processed when the death certificate is completed, submitted to NCHS and processed for reporting purposes. This delay can range from 1 week to 8 weeks or more.
As a result of the time lag, the CDC provisional death numbers as of May 21 are 71,339 versus the worldometer death numbers are 96,385 as of May 21.
https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Provisional-COVID-19-Death-Counts-by-Week-Ending-D/r8kw-7aab
In order to test the ‘time lag’ I looked at the cumulative deaths reported in the CDC provisionals as of April 25, 2020. As of April 25 the CDC provisional death number was 54529.
On April 25, 2020 WORLDOMETER reported 54265 deaths.
Thus, it certainly appears Worldometer is accurately collecting covid death data each day.
If you can do better, have at it.
If you just show up to correct me, get lost.
If you had paid attention to the report, you would know that I reference the numbers of death being iffy, and direct folks to the CDC Provisional numbers in several places.
Most folks here are not dumber than you are. They are aware of the situation.
By the way bright guy, exactly where is the good news when documenting severe illness and death? Duh!
I provide an in-house resource. I collect data and present it here.
If this is too much for you, you don’t like it, or you think I’m doing good it all wrong, too bad. I decide what and how I present what I present here.
“By the way bright guy, exactly where is the good news when documenting severe illness and death? Duh!”
Depends. In this particular case the good news is in the fact that close to 40%+ of all deaths occurred in Nursing Homes and the average age of those dying is well over 70 yrs And hige majority having multiple underlying health issues. It is good news in the sense it clearly shows the over reaction in locking us down as a Nation which in turn makes it much easier to open us back up. Good is relative and considering the gloom and doom we were subject to day in and day out (panic porn) what I mentioned is good news.
BTW, you’re way to touchy.
When you have hundreds of hours in this project, you can have input on how it’s run. You and one person other person come here to run you your mouths negatively.
I’m not here to post positive stories.
I’m here to provide what I’ve been providing, and that is all.
You’ve demonstrated you haven’t even read the full post, by your nonsensical suggestion I do what I’m already doing.
Not sorry if that frank observation puts down your five minutes of investment on this thread.
Go back to chasing cars dumb ass. There are only so many hours in the day.
Go here:
https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6
You will see a list of nations on the Left.
Down below you will see three tabs.
The third tab on the right is the one that displays the
Counties. I’m not aware of any other provision there for
counties, but who knows.
I do know in this location they limit it to 200. I’ve not
nosed around to see if I could find more.
Humidity is important also.
Breathing in hot humid air is supposed to really do a number
on it. At least that’s what I’ve read.
I have no idea what our capacity for hot air is, until it
starts to be a problem.
If I had access to a sauna, I’d be spending some time there.
Seems as if you have a serious and negative self image. You take what I say as a personal attack. It is not.
Btw, thel volume of work does not equate in any way with its accuracy.
Perhaps counciling in anger management is in order.
LOL
You come on the thread and spout off about what I need to do.
But of course I have the problem, and you don’t.
Perhaps you are the one who needs some medical help.
There’s a solution to your problem. Stay off my thread.
You don’t get to dictate what I do. Got it?
Nah, you don’t have an anger problem, not you.
And here I thought I was going easy on you.
There’s a reason why your daily massive and repetitive info dump gets limited responses. Perhaps you can figure out why.
Look back on your first post on this thread.
Then tell me you don’t have issues.
You’re like a classic walking case of projection.
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