Posted on 05/20/2020 5:16:48 AM PDT by spacejunkie2001
We need to proactively reach out to these companies that are allowing this behavior and tell them it is NOT acceptable. I just left a message for the CFO of Costco and I highly recommend you all do the same.
The forcing of masks on us like we're sheep is completely unacceptable and if we don't step to the plate and push back on this they won't stop.
There is cheaper tech out there....I'm still researching all the alternatives. But a positive pressure unit is ONLY needed by people who might suffer from hypoxia when using a standard mask. A regular mask works.
I’ve read it. It measures NOTHING. The information I am looking at is from direct measurements of the performance of masks, not nebulous handwaving using clinical symptoms.
No "civilian" would come anywhere near wearing a mask all day. Typical usage would be for probably an hour at a time going to a store to shop. Put the mask on in the car before entering the store, take it off when you get back to your car and use hand sanitizer after.
I stopped shopping at Costco and Smart and Final, instead of renewing my Costco card I will purchase a Sams Club card I do my other shopping a Walmart EARLY they don’t have the mask mandate!! I am sick to death of seeing my fellow citizens running around masked just like in CHINA!!
I will add this, I called the CFO line this AM and complained on a voice mail about the mask policy, how it’s being ignored by many employees and customers, and my not caring to participate in an activity merely for the sake of appearances.
Costco’s CFO actually called me back before lunch today and spent 10 minutes on the phone. I could not have been more impressed with the response, the information and his tone.
Read the links....the 96% is from actual physical measurements of known particle sizes, and is one of the best designed measurement systems for the purpose I have seen (and I designed such systems for fifty years). The data is solid. As to breathing, I'm referring to the data from scientific papers using similar technology, but different papers.
There is a paragraph in one of those links that describes the mechanism behind the problem. WITHOUT a mask, the aqueous microdrops rapidly evaporate, leaving small, dry microparticles, which travel MUCH further in air. WITH a mask, the space between mouth and mask is at 100% humidity, and the microdroplet rapidly grows larger...sufficiently large to be trapped by the mask.
And yet everyone is referencing ONE article, which isn't even a scientific publication....show me those "hundreds of studies".
There aren’t 93000 dead from Corona Virus, it’s maybe 10% of that number. The Flu is deadlier bro...
Masks don't work, socialist distancing doesn't work, destroying the economy in an effort to prevent the spread of COVID doesn't work. If it did, we would have been done with this a long time ago. But instead, we're promised socialist distancing and gimp masks in perpetuity, since a "second wave" will hit if we dare to stop doing any of this nonsense.
Wear your mask, stay home, do whatever makes you feel like you're "making a difference", and like "we're in this (alone) together."
The problem is that this is all being used as the basis to control people and dictate to them what they can do, where they can go, who they can see, how close they can get (to friends, family, etc.). It is totalitarian b.s. My rights don't end where your fear begins.
Plain and simple.......
Wearing a mask decreases the possibility of inhaling respirable microdroplets by 96%...this is a scientific FACT. The problem is that neither you nor I know if there is an asymptomatic carrier around if we are in a group in an enclosed area (retail store?). If said asymptomatic carrier also has a mask on, it decreases the possibility that he will "give off" respirable microdroplets by 99%..another scientific FACT. Wearing a mask is simply the intelligent thing to do.
I simply don't understand why there is this visceral actual HATRED of the idea of wearing a mask for short periods of time, can you explain that??
One really nice thing about threads like this is that it makes it easy to identify all the Karens and supporters of arbitrary police powers infesting FR.
Really? If it prevents INHALING respirable microdroplets by 96%, why are we told that we have to wear the mask to protect OTHER PEOPLE from US?
The reason is very simple: if we were told that a mask would prevent us from catching COVID, then we could CHOOSE to wear one or not. But we are specifically told that masks DON'T protect us, that we MUST wear them to protect others (and if you don't, you're a selfish, callous, blah blah blah). So what's the truth?
I don't have a "visceral hatred" of wearing the mask. I do have a great deal of skepticism about it, and I do think it is a psychological tool to keep everyone terrified, the purpose of which is to continue to extend "lockdowns", "socialist distancing", the ruination of businesses and people's life savings, and incredible expansions of government power/authority, and mountains of new government debt.
I'll say this again:
Two and a half months ago, we were told that for 15 days, we all needed to stay home, social distance, wear masks, to FLATTEN THE CURVE. Two and a half months later, we are still being told we have to stay home, wear masks, social distance. How much longer can they dangle the carrot of freedom in front of your nose, and the abject, irrational fear of the COVID bogeyman over your head, before you decide that maybe all of this crap isn't working, and maybe even that none of it was effective or necessary? Why are you so resistant to the notion that there might be better ways to deal with this?
Agreed. What I don't understand are the number of "Freepers" that apparently don't think you should even criticize or protest the policy.
For real.
If I could jump in. If you look at the places where this has been under control pretty well, Taiwan, Hong Kong, and S Korea...the reason is strict adherence to masks, social distancing, and aggressive contact tracing.
My guess is you don’t want to do any of those things. And that is the reason the government is “making” you do it. Generally, Americans don’t like being told what to do. Many Americans are stubborn for no apparent reason. Many are just stupid.
Just wear the mask in the store. Then take it off when you leave. Why is that so difficult. Do you wear a seatbelt? Probably not.
Do they also have limits on any other types of wine? Chamblis?
Not that I know of. ;-) LOL
They have plenty of Chablis, too.
LOL
Sorry, I couldn’t help myself, it was too tempting a target :-)
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