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Retired DA investigator accused in Arbery’s death missed ‘critically important’ training
News4Jax ^ | May 13, 2020 | Kelly Wiley

Posted on 05/14/2020 8:08:41 AM PDT by Leaning Right

One of the men facing murder charges in the death of 25-year-old Ahmaud Arbery is a retired chief investigator for the Brunswick District Attorney’s Office.

Personnel records obtained by the News4Jax I-TEAM show, for eight of the years Gregory Michael was employed as a chief investigator under District Attorney Jackie Johnson, he had no arrest powers.

McMichael told investigators in 2014 he knew he was behind on training hours, but recently discovered he had not had arrest powers since 2006.

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In 2018, he fell behind on his training again and was suspended by Georgia POST. Johnson took away his gun and badge again but reassigned him to be a liaison between her Brunswick office and the district attorney’s office in Camden County. He retired in June 2019.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Georgia
KEYWORDS: ahmaudarbery; arbery; georgia; mcmichael; training
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Another angle to an already weird story. I’m no lawyer, and I do not play one on TV. But I’m guessing that the information up in this article would not be admissible in the criminal case. But it would be admissible in the civil lawsuit that’s sure to follow.
1 posted on 05/14/2020 8:08:41 AM PDT by Leaning Right
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To: Leaning Right

Isn’t this irrelevant to the case based on what has come to light so far?


2 posted on 05/14/2020 8:14:01 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: Leaning Right

Oh for god sakes. enough

What about the white elderly couple shot dead in the cemetery by black dude


3 posted on 05/14/2020 8:15:01 AM PDT by A_Former_Democrat (Open up America! Enough! COMMUNISM was and IS the problem Boycott China)
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To: Leaning Right

Sounds like this investigator was near retirement and started cutting back on his continuing ed courses.


4 posted on 05/14/2020 8:15:31 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: Leaning Right

One of these certifications (mentioned in a Georgia regional report) was ‘de-escalation’. Apparently one of several that he just didn’t accomplish.

The curious thing (if they are correct), he was told about this about a decade ago, and did absolutely nothing.

So when they finally said ‘enough’ and he had to do the classes, then he goes to get a waiver.

Maybe it’s nothing but you have to wonder....if he’d just taken that one stupid class and paid attention, things would be different today. My other question...just out of curiosity, how many other folks are walking around as LE officials in the state with these waivers?


5 posted on 05/14/2020 8:17:16 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: RoosterRedux

> Isn’t this irrelevant to the case based on what has come to light so far? <

I don’t think it would be admitted into evidence when McMichael goes to trial (see my post #1). It’s just another fact related to the shooter. Make of it what you will.


6 posted on 05/14/2020 8:17:51 AM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: Leaning Right

This may help explain why the case of the mysterious construction site visitor remained unsolved for so long.


7 posted on 05/14/2020 8:19:42 AM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: Leaning Right

Just an fyi my friend, and I only know this ‘cause I live in the city where news4jax is...careful about what you hear from that news outlet, they are a CNN affiliate...just sayin’.


8 posted on 05/14/2020 8:20:34 AM PDT by V_TWIN
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To: Leaning Right

He wasn’t an officer. I don’t think you have to complete training to make a citizen’s arrest.


9 posted on 05/14/2020 8:20:48 AM PDT by alternatives? (Why have an army if there are no borders?)
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To: A_Former_Democrat

I suppose we can discuss more than one case at a time.

But you are 100% correct in mentioning that white elderly couple. It is SHAMEFUL that their murders are not getting the same national attention as is the Arbery case.


10 posted on 05/14/2020 8:21:42 AM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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What about the white elderly couple shot dead in the cemetery by black dude

There's another thread addressing that issue......

11 posted on 05/14/2020 8:22:54 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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To: pepsionice

Oh please the stupid situation he created has little to do with missing a class. He already knew this stuff. Gee do you think in the class they said “Oh and don’t bring your kid with you with a shotgun”?

Their behavior was just plain stupid.


12 posted on 05/14/2020 8:23:53 AM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: Leaning Right

So are we now to understand that a CITIZEN needs POST training to make a CITIZEN’S arrest? At the time of this incident, McMichael was no longer a public official.

Seems somewhat irrelevant to me, but I’m sure there will be much more of same to come.


13 posted on 05/14/2020 8:25:50 AM PDT by DMZFrank
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> I don’t think you have to complete training to make a citizen’s arrest. <

Right. That’s why I think his lack of training would not be admissible in a criminal trial. But maybe it would in a civil trial. It could show that he is careless in regards to what he’s supposed to know about the use of force. Perhaps a FR lawyer could weigh in on this.


14 posted on 05/14/2020 8:26:55 AM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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> So are we now to understand that a CITIZEN needs POST training to make a CITIZEN’S arrest? <

Of course not. No one is saying that.

But I posted this article for two reasons. One, it’s just another fact in the matter. And two, a few folks here have been saying that since McMichael was a former cop, he must of known what the law was. He was more informed than your average citizen.

Well, maybe not.


15 posted on 05/14/2020 8:30:58 AM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: Hot Tabasco

I’m talking about the media, not here


16 posted on 05/14/2020 8:32:07 AM PDT by A_Former_Democrat (Open up America! Enough! COMMUNISM was and IS the problem Boycott China)
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To: Leaning Right

Ignorance of the law is not an excuse.


17 posted on 05/14/2020 8:32:20 AM PDT by aimhigh (THIS is His commandment . . . . 1 John 3:23)
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To: Leaning Right

Georgia citizens can exercise Citizens Arrest. It seems he had enough probable cause to do that.


18 posted on 05/14/2020 8:32:55 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: RoosterRedux

.If People only knew how far behind in training police all over this country are.

It’s very common.

Ive seen it first hand.

Ive also seen them given a lot of leeway when qualifying on a run range but couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn. The qualifying officer did everything except shoot the gun for them to help them qualify.

Saw it with my own eyes.


19 posted on 05/14/2020 8:43:50 AM PDT by DrewsMum
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To: pepsionice

But wait minute! He wasn’t acting in official capacity why does it matter? That’s all we’ve been told for a week is how he is JUST A CITIZEN.... former cop. He’s been given zero benefit of the doubt on his judgement considering his background. AND YET now his professional qualifications matter? What?

Nope he was JUST A CITIZEN.

The race hustlers cant have it both ways.


20 posted on 05/14/2020 8:47:21 AM PDT by DrewsMum
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