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NEW: Senate revives surveillance brawl
The Hill ^ | 10th May 2020 | BY JORDAIN CARNEY

Posted on 05/10/2020 5:01:04 AM PDT by RandFan

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Time for a VETO !
1 posted on 05/10/2020 5:01:04 AM PDT by RandFan
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growing questions about the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) court after the Justice Department inspector general found widespread errors

Yea. . .those widespread errors. . .and they also found widespread errors in John Wayne Gacy's crawlspace.

2 posted on 05/10/2020 5:09:16 AM PDT by McBuff (To be, rather than to seem)
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“keep America safe”? Hardly, rather it’s keep the DS safe.


3 posted on 05/10/2020 5:11:04 AM PDT by hardspunned (MAGA, now more than ever)
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Ditch Mitch.


4 posted on 05/10/2020 5:14:36 AM PDT by RandFan
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Trump should veto the bill demanding no bill until after the Senate provides to the public, in a very public way, the abuses the FISA court permitted and committed in recent years. Trump should remind the Senators that Attorney General Barr will make his own very public report to the Senators covering everything, lest they get the notion that they can be trusted to cover everything.

Then the whole FISA court has to step down and be replaced.

Only when that is all very public can the public judge the “reforms” the legislators have in mind, and put any new FISA court members on notice as to the kind of scrutiny expected in their work.


5 posted on 05/10/2020 5:20:10 AM PDT by Wuli
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Great post.

Lindsey has been stalling for a YEAR... He isn’t serious. That’s why it comes to this and I hope the president uses his veto.


6 posted on 05/10/2020 5:22:05 AM PDT by RandFan
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They need to be forced to hire a defense counsel to represent the person that can’t defend himself to keep them office. The defense counsel should get their fee structure incentivized to be very aggressive in their defense along with the route to see everything regarding the target whether or not it used to support the FISA.


7 posted on 05/10/2020 5:27:51 AM PDT by dila813
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The Flynn memos and transcripts being released was just step one. Barr is working a plan. All shall be revealed.

Every illegal or unauthorized NSA search they conducted (for unmasking, etc), left digital fingerprints.

[Imagine your life being examined under these microscopes, for legal action, leverage, or blackmail. Or how about Chief Justice Roberts, for example?]

Now Obama's got a very big problem, because all of his illegal orders and the actions of his henchmen are going to come out.

The Obama clique couldn't resist using these powerful surveillance tools against their enemies, and now the entire sordid affair will be laid bare, chapter by chapter.


8 posted on 05/10/2020 5:34:42 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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Lindsey acts similar to long time federal bureaucrats, seeing the institutional history of the Senate as an object deserving the Senators’ protection, though no such obligation is in their oath of office. Too much “decorum” and too timid to act.


9 posted on 05/10/2020 5:35:04 AM PDT by Wuli
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Why is Obama Panicking Now? – The Importance of Understanding Political Surveillance In The Era of President Obama…
Posted on May 9, 2020 by sundance
Why is former President Obama calling forth all his defensive resources now? Why did former national security advisor Susan Rice write her cya letter? Why have republicans in congress not been willing to investigate the true origins of political surveillance? What is the reason for so much anger, desperation and opposition from a variety of interests?

With the release of recent transcripts and the declassification of material from within the IG report, the Carter Page FISA and Flynn documents showing FBI activity, there is a common misconception about why the intelligence apparatus began investigating the Trump campaign in the first place. Why was Donald Trump considered a threat?

In this outline we hope to provide some fully cited deep source material that will explain the origin; and specifically why those inside the Intelligence Community began targeting Trump and using Confidential Human Sources against campaign officials.

[rest of the deep dive at the link]
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/05/09/why-is-obama-panicking-now-the-importance-of-understanding-political-surveillance-in-the-era-of-president-obama/


10 posted on 05/10/2020 5:35:58 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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Mental patients. Why on God’s green Earth would Trump not veto a bill keeping a program that was used to pull a coup on him? Do these idiots have a brain cell?


11 posted on 05/10/2020 5:41:01 AM PDT by angmo (America invented the Moon, so we could go there.)
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There’s something along the lines of this in Lee’s amendment.

See what you think:

https://www.lee.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/2020/3/lee-leahy-introduce-bipartisan-fisa-reform-bill


12 posted on 05/10/2020 5:42:44 AM PDT by RandFan
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Bipartisan sell out.

Should be an interesting fight

Hope Trump has his veto pen ready.


13 posted on 05/10/2020 5:49:03 AM PDT by RandFan
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House bill? I think not. Undoubtedly chock full of Easter eggs, Trojan horses, and unexploded ordinance just waiting to go off.


14 posted on 05/10/2020 5:55:42 AM PDT by VTenigma (The Democrat party is the party of the mathematically challenged)
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You know them too well...


15 posted on 05/10/2020 6:15:38 AM PDT by RandFan
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Not too bad, but the defense should have power to just go in and see everything, not just what they are given when they ask for it. Also need to incentivize them to be aggressive, a lot of these guys don’t want to make waves because they know which way the bread is buttered.

This 2 degrees removed from a US Target should be killed, it should be 2 degrees removed from who their foreign contact is. The US Person is already degree #1, the foreigner is always person zero, they need to redefine this.


16 posted on 05/10/2020 6:24:48 AM PDT by dila813
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“[rest of the deep dive at the link]

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/05/09/why-is-obama-panicking-now-the-importance-of-understanding-political-surveillance-in-the-era-of-president-obama/

Long read but worth the time. This is a peek at the rest of the iceberg, and it’s a doozy.


17 posted on 05/10/2020 6:35:15 AM PDT by bluescape (Mainstream Media-The guard dog that holds you down while the attacker has his way.)
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Filibuster.

Defeat.

Abject failure and deep state tool.

Privably abused against Americans for political purposes.

KILL. THE. BILL.


18 posted on 05/10/2020 6:37:56 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (BOYCOTT CHINA! - spread the word .... (China is the Sick Man of Asia with a very small penis))
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Lets try!


19 posted on 05/10/2020 6:42:45 AM PDT by RandFan
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To: bluescape

I should have figured this out, but I also learned in CTH today that Barr appointed US Attorney’s to review all of the cases coming from the dossier for abuse.

Not just Flynn, (Jenson), but also the others, Carter Page, George P, and Manafort, (that I recall off the top of my head).

Jenson’s report on Flynn was just #1.

And then comes Durham and his CRIMINAL probe....


20 posted on 05/10/2020 6:47:59 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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