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To: usnavy_cop_retired

You might be right and you make a compelling argument for an angle I had not considered.

My WAG on this is a bit different - I think Obama and Rice were unmasking people in an unprecedented fashion and that was the scandal they feared would be revealed.

There is evidence they unmasked journalists, the Trump campaign, and likely many others as a regular practice. When I said “they”, this included DNC contractors for FBI/CIA and others. It was unprecedented in our history and it was clearly done in violation of civil rights.

This would be the scandal that would truly taint the Obama administration. They assumed Clinton would win so they had nothing to worry about until she laid an egg. They panicked. Flynn had an idea I think of what was happening, but likely did not know the full scope of it and he had no reason to know (DIA). When Trump said they wiretapped him it created more panic because he was right. Rogers told him.

Stop and think about this..... they scrambled to create the FISA warrants when it appeared Clinton might lose to retroactively cover what they had already done - wiretaps. They had to do this to create a “legal” cover for what they already did. Because the DNC contractors had access to the NSA database this illegal surveillance was done against Trump, his associates, and his campaign!

All of us have been focused on the dossier and the Russian collusion allegations, but this was only done to provide an excuse or cover for the real sin. The dossier and FISA’s were so amateurish and sloppy because they rushed them. It was all done in a rush based on the timeline we know while normal investigations are deliberate and often well established with the usual steps prior to going to the FISA court.

I don’t know if I am correct it is an educated guess reading between the lines. Nunes is on with Maria this morning and he is still very focused on the dossier, but what if that is NOT the worst scandal? What if the dossier was not initially intended to sabotage Trump, but it was to cover other sins? The fact that it all morphed into the collusion delusion and a Special Counsel was a bonus, but now everyone is looking at this scratching their head about how amateurish it all looks.

Grenell is fearless. He is now in a position to ask for all of this and it will be given to him right away. He is not Coates. The White House is not dumb. What if this is what Grenell took to Barr?

This unmasking was illegal. Period. The only thing that might provide some modicum of legal cover would be the FISA’s, but we know those were fraudulent and frankly in hindsight amateurish. However, they had to get a FISA to try and cover what they did. 2 jumps. Papadopoulos talks to an aide to Flynn and they can now listen to whoever he talks to (Flynn and others).

Curious to see what you think and FRegards.


75 posted on 05/10/2020 8:17:51 AM PDT by volunbeer (Find the truth and accept it - anything else is delusional)
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To: volunbeer

Your take is quite plausible.

But this is not a one track operation. The Dems never do a one track attack.

The FISA court said that the “contractors” were at it since at least 2012. What if Romney, after the first debate with Obama, was approached by the Dems with some dirt found doing the illegal NSA unmasking of to-from and about searches and made it clear that it will be exposed if he doesn’t back off.

I was always concerned about his dramatic change of “attack” mode to lay back during the next two debates.

I hope, pray and wait for AG Barr to reveal everything. And Gennell is searching for everything IC related. That info is coming, and soon.


92 posted on 05/10/2020 5:36:43 PM PDT by usnavy_cop_retired (Retiree in the P.I. living as a legal immigrant)
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