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60 Questions Americans Need To Consider About How To Handle Coronavirus: Whatever you do, there will be tradeoffs between the possibility of getting infected and living your life
The Federalist ^ | 05/07/2020 | Joy Pullman

Posted on 05/07/2020 9:04:34 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind
69 percent of 2,394 registered U.S. voters polled said it is “necessary” to develop a coronavirus vaccine “before we reopen the economy.”

This cracks me up.

There has never been a successful CoV vaccine, for a variety of reasons.

I think the probability of durable immunity from a SARS CoV 2 vaccine is <10%, yet people ask me every day, "how long until the vaccine is ready?"

What are they supposed to do with the correct answer, which is, "never"?

21 posted on 05/07/2020 10:01:24 AM PDT by Jim Noble (There is nothing racist in stating plainly what most people already know)
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To: SeekAndFind

My answer to the questions are to quit using seniors as scapegoats. Life is not without risks. Let the population free.


22 posted on 05/07/2020 10:08:44 AM PDT by pacpam (action=consequence and applies in all cases - friend of victory)
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To: Pollard

You NAILED IT, P! Exactly right!


23 posted on 05/07/2020 10:19:37 AM PDT by LittleBillyInfidel (This tagline has been formatted to fit the screen. Some content has been edited.)
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To: LittleBillyInfidel

They can’t hide if their employers can fire them, their landlords can evict them, and there aren’t stimulus checks coming in every month.


24 posted on 05/07/2020 10:22:40 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Mouton
They only think that because they are led to believe they will be getting free money till the end of time. Cut off the BS stimulus funds and they will have a different opinion.

It's interesting that you say that! I recently called 3 of my friends and my little brother who are always struggling. Each say they have more money than when they were working.

25 posted on 05/07/2020 10:23:51 AM PDT by LittleBillyInfidel (This tagline has been formatted to fit the screen. Some content has been edited.)
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To: TheBattman

0.02% would be two deaths in 10,000 infected. If only 2% of infected people were symptomatic, and 1% of them died, that would get you your 0.02%.

Many more than 2% are symptomatic. Your decimal is in the wrong place.

Right now Covid 19 is the most common new infection in the US, and it is more lethal than this year’s flu. You and I and everyone are more likely to die of Covid 19 than the flu, at least this year.

Right now, my area has 1% of the population confirmed infected, probably at least 10 times as many actually infected. I put my own chances of catching and dying of this disease at about 0.3 in the next year. Still a lot higher than my chance of being murdered, I don’t know about yours.


26 posted on 05/07/2020 10:24:03 AM PDT by heartwood (Someone has to play devil's advocate.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I don’t know the situation, but I am going to go out on a limb and guess the answer is the usual one: the cost of the malpractice insurance, or the rules that come with it, is probably the prohibitive factor.


27 posted on 05/07/2020 10:24:54 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Mouton

“Cut off the BS stimulus funds and they will have a different opinion.”

I suspect when all the ‘stimulus’ money runs out by August 1st, people will have a different view of not working.


28 posted on 05/07/2020 10:41:43 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Have!)
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To: heartwood

Maybe (maybe) in isolated cases like stupid-run NYC. I’ve quit paying any attention to these mismanaged “hotspots” and look at the overall numbers.

Here in Arkansas, for example, we have been expanding testing (its been pretty slow ramping up, and we have little to no antibody testing yet). But the numbers that we have seen so far since day 1 (aka - the first diagnosed patient) is that even among thsoe who have been tested (up until the last week or so, you had to be symptomatic and/or have confirmed contact with a positive case to even BE tested) - and we have remained between 6-10% of SYMMPTOMATIC people have been positive. AS testing criteria have loosened up, the percentage has decreased to around 1%. Again, we can’t even begin to guess the asymptomatic cases - but based on antibody testing going on all over the country - sometimes up to 50% of a given population show antibodies to this virus.

Let’s look at our prisons... test 500 inmates - 4 positives. Expand to 2000 inmates tested at the facilities with confirmed cases - 4 deaths, and 40-ish positives.

Now - what death rate are you going to play with? The death rate from the overall population? Then 0.02% is still extremely aggressive based on the numbers (as it just is a measure of how many deaths vs. total population, regardless of if they are positive or not).

Death rate for those infected and symptomatic are less than 5% (and closer to an actual number of 2%). IF 1% are infected in your area - and only 2% of symptomatic people die - that adds moves the decimal two places to the left (just as I put).


29 posted on 05/07/2020 2:20:13 PM PDT by TheBattman (Democrats-Progressives-Marxists-Socialists - redundant labels.)
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To: TheBattman

I don’t think it likely that only 1% will be infected.


30 posted on 05/07/2020 5:52:00 PM PDT by heartwood (Someone has to play devil's advocate.)
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We will probably never know... without testing 100% of people. That won’t ever happen.


31 posted on 05/07/2020 7:40:32 PM PDT by TheBattman (Democrats-Progressives-Marxists-Socialists - redundant labels.)
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