Posted on 05/01/2020 2:47:08 PM PDT by grundle
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.24.20078717v1.full.pdf
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Isolation weakens the immune system.
Quarantine those already sick or vulnerable and let herd immunity be acquired as humans have done for thousands of years.
And go into the big stores and supermarkets and watch social distancing be ignored with lots of breathing indoors, but yet Dems say you can’t go outside to the beaches, cant go outside to ride your bike in some places, can’t go for a jog.
and all those ads on TV from your Dem friendly companies telling you to stay home
The paper is utter horse shit. It is written by a research associate in Physical Oceanography. He starts by writing down an equation that already presumes his conclusion - equation (1). This is a non-peer reviewed preprint. A competent epidemiologist would tear it to shreds.
Another problem, and he alone is not alone in making this one, is to assume that social distancing only happened AFTER "lockdown orders" when in fact many of us started social distancing well before then.
Over a period of years, not weeks.
And no I do not support destroying the economy over this.
Is that a new word? What in the world does it really mean?
Oh, I got it. Geez.
Years? I think it would depend upon the person.
One thing I will say is, if social distancing isn’t being enforced in supermarkets, Target, etc, and it isn’t, and people violate it, then Dems cannot keep small businesses under lock down to try and force them out of business to further their nanny state/ welfare state goals.
And if social distancing is being ignored inside, then Dems have no reason to shut down outside beaches and keeping people from biking or jogging - as they are moving.
The statement was stupid. Your immune system weakens over a long period of time if it is not exercised by exposure to pathogens, new or old. But you don’t suddenly lose the ability to develop an immune response to a pathogen because you went off and stayed in your country home for a month or so.
People who don’t take care of themselves indoors and eat well will weaken their immune systems exposure to pathogens or not.
And no personal attacks at FR as it says below “Word Wrap On.”
So you shut you mouth and learn to act like an adult, child, and treat people better.
"Full lockdown policies in Western Europe countries have no evident impacts on the COVID-19 epidemic. [scientific paper]"
FR: Never Accept the Premise of Your Opponent’s Argument
The referenced article seems to be an attempt by political factions to rewrite history by saying that lockdowns are ineffective imo.
Not only did PDJT early on claim that USA was among first to lockdown, but consider this.
Lockdowns are ineffective when politically misguided government leaders fail to order lockdowns early enough to be effective imo.
In fact, here is previously posted reference to mayor of Florence of hard-hit Italy, roughly early February 2020, who encouraged Italian citizens to welcome possibly infected Chinese man. Note that some citizens remove the face mask the man is wearing as he stands on street.
Italian residents hug Chinese people to encourage them in coronavirus fight (0:51 seconds)
Corrections, insights welcome.
Send "Orange Man Bad" federal and state government Democrats and RINOs home in November!
Supporting PDJT with a new patriot Congress and state government leaders that will promise to fully support his already excellent work for MAGA and stopping COVID-19 will effectively give fast-working Trump a third term in office imo.
MAGA, also KAGA! (Keep America Great Always!)
Well duh
Much of the problem with slow business involves customers who don’t want to visit nonessential businesses with a high human density. A Burger King in my area has been letting people into its lobbies to loiter against a statewide stay-at-home order. Business there continues to be very slow. No big loss, though. The place is managed and staffed by tweakers and illegal Xanax addicts anyway. *Filthy*
What is the evidence for your statement that it is written by a research associate in Physical Oceanography?
Putting his words into plain English, he makes the point that if the lockdowns actually worked to suppress the spread of Covid, one would expect to seem some alteration/reduction in the rate at which people got infected/die of covid occurring a reasonable time after the institution of the lockdown. But, the empirical evidence shows no such reduction. Therefore, he concludes the full on lockdowns—as opposed to the imposition of social distancing/masking/similar requirements, which he does not purport to critique—do not actually affect the transmissibility of covid.
A google search Thomas Meunier
he makes the point that if the lockdowns actually worked to suppress the spread of Covid, one would expect to seem some alteration/reduction in the rate at which people got infected/die of covid occurring a reasonable time after the institution of the lockdown.
His conclusions are not based upon data, but on a mathematical model (equation 1). He asserts that the tappering off of infections was already predicted by his model - which is not a prediction, but just an equation with no physical content - and so the tappering off was already occurring and social distancing had nothing to do with it.
The logical fallacy is called begging the question, circular reasoning, putting the rabbit in the hat. The moral charge is montebankism, charlatanism, or academic fraud. Or just plain fraud.
I eat well, get more exercise than I ever did and practice social distancing. My immune system is doing just fine. In fact I am enjoying the dearth of colds, flus and other things not being spread around because people are trying not to spread the Wuhan Flu.
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