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Trump Tweet reguarding CoronaVirus testing
Twitter ^ | April 29, 2020 | Still Your President Trump

Posted on 04/28/2020 11:51:19 PM PDT by McGruff

The only reason the U.S. has reported one million cases of CoronaVirus is that our Testing is sooo much better than any other country in the World. Other countries are way behind us in Testing, and therefore show far fewer cases!


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: leguarding
Short and to the point.
1 posted on 04/28/2020 11:51:19 PM PDT by McGruff
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To: McGruff

long and to the point.

pity Fox edited out the opening, with Laura providing NY or NYC graphs for influenza etc.

VIDEO: 28 Apr: Fox News: Minnesota doctor questions coronavirus death toll, claims ‘influenza deaths ... have been called COVID-19’
By Yael Halon
Dr. Scott Jensen, a Minnesota family physician and Republican state senator, told “The Ingraham Angle” Tuesday that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) guidelines for doctors to certify whether a patient has died of coronavirus are a “mess” and predicted that some fatalities initially reported to be COVID-19-related would be reclassified.
“We both know,” Jensen told host Laura Ingraham, “that there have been influenza deaths, influenza cases, that have been called COVID-19 [deaths] because nobody bothered to swab their throats. If you want to find out what the data is, I don’t care if they’re dead or alive, swab them. We can always run a test later and then actually get real information.”...
https://www.foxnews.com/media/dr-scott-jensen-cdc-coronavirus-death-guidelines

26m20s to 36m58s: full segment, stats plus Scott Jensen:

Youtube: The Ingraham Angle 4/28/20 LIVE STREAM | Fox
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5P1C553pCo

Laura also mentioned Prof Ricciardi; wish the article had shown up on screen when she did:

23 Mar: UK Telegraph: Why have so many coronavirus patients died in Italy?
The country’s high death toll is due to an ageing population, overstretched health system and the way fatalities are reported
By Sarah Newey
But Prof Ricciardi (scientific adviser to Italy’s minister of health) added that Italy’s death rate may also appear high because of how doctors record fatalities.
“The way in which we code deaths in our country is very generous in the sense that all the people who die in hospitals with the coronavirus are deemed to be dying of the coronavirus.

“On re-evaluation by the National Institute of Health, only 12 per cent of death certificates have shown a direct causality from coronavirus, while 88 per cent of patients who have died have at least one pre-morbidity - many had two or three,” he says...
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/have-many-coronavirus-patients-died-italy/

a couple of weeks ago I calculated and posted on FR NYC/US fatalities per million population compared to London/England, Madrid/Spain, and there wasn’t a great deal of difference at all compared to London. percentage was a little less for Madrid, but Barcelona was a second hot spot for Spain.

finally, never forget US has fared better than:

Belgium, Spain, Italy, France, United Kingdom, Netherlands, Ireland, Sweden, Switzerland.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1104709/coronavirus-deaths-worldwide-per-million-inhabitants/

not that you would know it, if you relied on FakeNewsMSM. it’s important this fact is kept in the public eye, Mr. President.


2 posted on 04/29/2020 12:03:14 AM PDT by MAGAthon
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To: McGruff
Short one ...

Two bee oar knot too be ...

Recall homonyms do you?

3 posted on 04/29/2020 12:30:40 AM PDT by jamaksin
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To: jamaksin

Make cents do you?


4 posted on 04/29/2020 12:36:17 AM PDT by McGruff (Biden's still Hidin)
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To: McGruff

expect big jumps in UK numbers:

28 Apr: Reuters: UK on track for one of Europe’s worst virus death tolls
by Andy Bruce
The Office for National Statistics said ***21,284 people had died in England by April 17 with mentions of COVID-19 on their death certificate...
“The United Kingdom is going to be right up there among the worst-hit nations in the initial surge,” said Bill Hanage, associate professor of epidemiology at Harvard’s T.H. Chan School of Public Health...

Unlike the hospital death tolls announced daily by the government, Tuesday’s ONS figures include deaths in community settings, such as care homes where overall fatalities have trebled in a few weeks.

Health Secretary Matt Hancock said on Tuesday that daily figures for deaths in the community would be published from Wednesday.
“I would push my neck out that it is plausible that there are now as many COVID-labelled deaths occurring out of hospital as there are in hospitals in England,” said David Spiegelhalter, professor of the public understanding of risk at the University of Cambridge...

The ONS bases its figures on mentions of COVID-19 in death certificates, including suspected cases rather than those who actually tested positive...
Britain’s true toll is likely to be closer to Spain or even Italy, Europe’s worst-affected countries, although their reporting of deaths outside hospital is patchy so exact comparisons are difficult...
A UK death toll of more than 24,000 puts it among the worst-hit in Europe, exceeding France - which also counts deaths in care homes - by around 5,000 at that point in time...

Including all causes of death, 22,351 people died in England and Wales in the 16th week of 2020, the biggest total since comparable records began in 1993, the ONS said.
This was 11,854 more than average for the week
These excess deaths will eventually provide the best estimate for the death toll from the coronavirus outbreak, Cambridge academic Spiegelhalter said.
“In a flu year, that’s not done by counting what’s on death certificates, that’s done by us looking at the excess deaths, allowing for temperature changes,” he said.
“That is the kind of calculation that I will trust more than counting what’s on the certificate.”
https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-health-coronavirus-britain-death/uk-on-track-for-one-of-europes-worst-virus-death-tolls-idUKKCN22A14K

excess example:

3 Dec 2018: PulseToday UK: Flu and cold weather contributed towards 50,000 excess winter deaths last year
There were over 50,000 excess winter deaths in England and Wales last winter, the highest recorded since 1975/76, according to data released by the Office of National Statistics (ONS).

The increase is thought to be a result of the prevalence of flu last year, alongside ineffectiveness of the flu vaccine and colder than usual temperatures in the 2017/18 winter period, according to the ONS.
The excess winter mortality rate, which compares the numbers of deaths between December and March to the average number of deaths across the rest of the year, continued to be the highest in females and people aged 85 and over.
Over one third (34.7%) of the excess deaths between 2017/18 were caused by respiratory diseases...

Nick Stripe, health analysis and life events statistician at the ONS, said: ‘Peaks like these are not unusual - we have seen more than eight peaks during the last 40 years.’...
Dr Harries said: ‘The winter of 2017/18 saw an intense flu season and some very cold weather. Such weather particularly affects people who are already vulnerable, increasing the risk of heart attack and stroke...
http://www.pulsetoday.co.uk/news/commissioning/flu-and-cold-weather-contributed-towards-50000-excess-winter-deaths-last-year/20037896.article

for what they’re worth, a few more figures:

London: 4,781 covid19 deaths. 22.46 percent of England fatalities of 21,284

NYC: 12,509 covid19 deaths. 20.8% of US total approx. 60,000.

NYC population 8.4 million
London population 8.9 million


5 posted on 04/29/2020 12:52:39 AM PDT by MAGAthon
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To: MAGAthon
I was going to say ‘virus death tolls’ is a number you can't fudge, but NY City has already proved that isn't true.
6 posted on 04/29/2020 1:00:04 AM PDT by McGruff (Biden's still Hidin)
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To: McGruff

The “virus death tolls” are almost as high as the bridge and tunnel tolls.


7 posted on 04/29/2020 5:18:57 AM PDT by captain_dave
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To: McGruff

A Fox News graphic this morning indicated that we have one third of the cases in the world and a quarter of the deaths in the world. Does anybody really believe that? Is it a coincidence that the country with the most advanced medical care in the world also has the most efficient and up to date reporting statistics? If someone dies from this virus in a little village in Moldova or Namibia does anyone even know?


8 posted on 04/29/2020 6:31:29 AM PDT by suthener
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