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When the Kitchen Is Also a Bedroom: Overcrowding Worsens in New York (2016 story on Jackson Heights)
The New York Times ^ | February 29, 2016 | Kirk Semple

Posted on 04/27/2020 4:26:38 PM PDT by GuavaCheesePuff

Rafael’s housing situation is an exercise in tolerance and creative space management. He lives with four other people in an overstuffed apartment in Jackson Heights, Queens, that measures less than 500 square feet.

He shares a bedroom with his mother. Two men sublet a second, smaller bedroom that Rafael created by subdividing the living room with drywall. His brother sleeps in the kitchen on a mat that he rolls up every morning and wedges in the corner, opening a path to the front door.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: jacksonheights; newyorkcity; overcrowding; queens

1 posted on 04/27/2020 4:26:38 PM PDT by GuavaCheesePuff
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To: GuavaCheesePuff

Boomer here. My first home was an apartment building near the Pike in Long Beach. Living room/bedroom with a Murphy bed. I think the only completely separate room was the bathroom. Kitchen was off to one side. My dad had a white-collar job. By today’s standards, we were dirt poor, but back then, my parents thought of themselves as lower middle class.

Next home was a real apartment. My folks had a bedroom with a door. My bedroom was a closet big enough for a bed—but it was all mine.


2 posted on 04/27/2020 4:43:49 PM PDT by hanamizu
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To: GuavaCheesePuff

So it’s just like 1890.
Or 1900.
Or 1910.
Or 1920.
Or 1930.
Or 1940.
Or 1950.
Or 1960.
Or 1970.
Or 1980.
Or...
Well, you get the picture.


3 posted on 04/27/2020 4:44:09 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: GuavaCheesePuff

Definitely nothing new.

Conditions as described are bad in ‘our eyes’ but guess pretty good when it is either there or a thatched hut with a leaky roof...

Worst part is the local govts allowed this to happen, if anyone complained about 10 people living in a one bedroom apartment you were dubbed a trouble maker, and the Schiff started hitting the fan when 4 families would buy a single family house and end up parking 10 vehicles in the yard, on the grass or turning lawns into parking with little or no enforcement by local officials.

Same neighborhoods who a short time earlier had ‘raised hell’ with construction people parking their take home vehicle in the ‘neighborhood’...not just ones with overload of tools etc but clean, new pickups with company name on them.
THAT upset the ‘shoe clerks’ but the 10 vehicles on the lawn didn’t...

Also-before the above-if you had two kids you needed at least two bedrooms and if a third on the way one was ‘breaking the lease’.

Kind of reminded me of my mother having Allstate auto insurance and getting cancelled the day I turned 16 and wouldn’t even take her back when I joined the Navy at 17. This was in 1955/56.


4 posted on 04/27/2020 4:47:56 PM PDT by xrmusn (6/98"HRC is the Grandmother that lures Hansel & Gretel to the pot")
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To: Larry Lucido

It always been that way....I can remember taking the train to see the Yankees in the 1950s..Just row after row of buildings and people sitting out side...I lived in Schenectady at the time...


5 posted on 04/27/2020 4:50:00 PM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: Hojczyk

When I went to Wayne State I shared a one bedroom for $100/month with several folks. Slept in sleeping bags. It was quite comfortable. Who needs furniture? Food from the grocery down the street cost next to nothing. We kept the place spotless (if you can believe it). Didn’t need a car but I had one.


6 posted on 04/27/2020 4:57:57 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: GuavaCheesePuff

>>He lives with four other people in an overstuffed apartment in Jackson Heights, Queens, that measures less than 500 square feet.

today they’d call that a spacious “tiny home”. This is what your masters want.


7 posted on 04/27/2020 4:58:01 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (The fish wrap media promoted Obama'sBenghazi lies in 2012)
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To: GuavaCheesePuff

The 2400 square foot house we had before retirement was nice. Now we make due with 1561 square feet. I can’t imagine the two of us living in anything smaller.


8 posted on 04/27/2020 5:08:54 PM PDT by AlaskaErik (In time of peace, prepare for war.)
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To: GuavaCheesePuff

See my violin? Really,it’s right here!


9 posted on 04/27/2020 5:09:56 PM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: GuavaCheesePuff

Bkmk


10 posted on 04/27/2020 5:11:00 PM PDT by sauropod (Pelosi Galore: We know she's lying when we see her dentures flying. Have some cake, Peasant!)
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To: GuavaCheesePuff

Wow!

Imagine if a bad communicable disease hit the world and the nation!

And there lies NY City with all those people living like rats in overstuffed cages breathing, coughing and hacking loogies on each other.....


11 posted on 04/27/2020 5:17:22 PM PDT by Vlad The Inhaler (To become truly great, one has to stand with people, not above them. Baron Montesquieu: 1689-1775)
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To: GuavaCheesePuff
According to the article the communities which have the highest amount of crowding in all of NYC are Elmhurst and south Corona.

What communities in NYC had the highest amount of Coronavirus cases and deaths?

Elmhurst and Corona.

So you can pin this on De Blasio and Cuomo for allowing this type of overcrowding to exist in the communities they govern.

12 posted on 04/27/2020 5:18:54 PM PDT by CaptainK ('No collusion, no obstruction, he's a leaker')
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To: a fool in paradise

Just like back home in their sh##hole what are they complaining about


13 posted on 04/27/2020 6:43:34 PM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: GuavaCheesePuff
When I was a kid the people who had the farm down the hollow lived in a 2 story log cabin 125 yrs old.

One room downstairs, 2 up.

4 kids, 3 boys, 1 girl.

The girl got her own room upstairs and the 3 boys had the other.

Mom and Dad downstairs.

No running water, just an outhouse and wood heat.

All the kids did well.

Wonderful family.

White Privilige, right there, donchaknow.

14 posted on 04/27/2020 8:52:30 PM PDT by Eagles6 (I said good luck to him)
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To: GuavaCheesePuff
When I was a kid the people who had the farm down the hollow lived in a 2 story log cabin 125 yrs old.

One room downstairs, 2 up.

4 kids, 3 boys, 1 girl.

The girl got her own room upstairs and the 3 boys had the other.

Mom and Dad downstairs.

No running water, just an outhouse and wood heat.

All the kids did well.

Wonderful family.

White Privilige, right there, donchaknow.

15 posted on 04/27/2020 8:54:09 PM PDT by Eagles6 (I said good luck to him)
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To: hanamizu

Haven’t thought about the Pike in years. I thought that it was such a great place when I got to Long Beach to report aboard a destroyer.


16 posted on 04/28/2020 3:45:02 AM PDT by jack308
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