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Coronavirus: Bad Science (Or Something Worse?) May Well Be Costing Lives
PeakProsperity.com ^ | Apr 24, 2020 | Dr. Chris Martenson, PHD Pathology

Posted on 04/24/2020 5:45:40 PM PDT by DannyTN

Video at Link.

I didn't take good notes today, but what I took follows.

Shows the new case chart and that it's flattened but not falling yet.

Then he brings up articles on the heart risk of Hydroxychloroquine and Azithromycin.

So he starts examining them for the actual risk? What percent? How many cases? Wouldn't you know, none of the articles say.

They point to QT elongation and that can be associated with sudden cardiac arrest. But they don't tell you what percent risk you have.

Explains the QT Elongation.

He goes through the NIH site and the Poison Control Center and find nothing on the actual risk.

So he starts looking at Pre-COVID articles and studies. Finds a WHO study that admits it can cause QT elogation but after hundreds of millions of doses there are no sudden cardiac arrests.

He brings up a list of horrible side effects, but no that's aspirin.

Then he explains the toxicity curves that every drug has. It has a therapeutic dose curve, a toxicity curve, and lethal dose curve. If the curves are close together dosing becomes problematic. If far apart, dosing is pretty safe.

HCQ curves are far apart.

He does bring up the side effects of HCQ. Heart issues weren't even mentioned.

Then he brings up another org, I think association of Cardiologists, and looks at their findings. Same thing.

Talks about psychological tests showing mental rigidity with strong political associations.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: coronavirus; covid19

1 posted on 04/24/2020 5:45:40 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN

Oh he also early in the video talked about Case Fatality Rate (CFR) vs Infection Fatality Rate (IFR) and how those are frequently being confused.

Then he used data out of New York to compare CFR for COVID vs Flu and the IFR for COVID vs the FLU.

If I recall, CFR for COVID was 40 times worse than Flu and IFR was 25 times worse than flu.

Oh and one more gem. Boston Hospital required all health care workers and Patients to wear masks. New cases of COVID dropped over 50%.


2 posted on 04/24/2020 5:49:17 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN
The next time you go to class take Cuomo with you.
3 posted on 04/24/2020 5:53:14 PM PDT by immadashell (Save Innocent Lives - ban gun free zones)
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To: DannyTN

Was just watching the news, and they paraded out a medical “expert” who went to great lengths to tell people not to use Hydroxychloroquine and Azithromycin. But never mentioned the cases where it works to relieve symptoms of Covid-19.

This “expert” said it’s a lie that Hydroxychloroquine and Azithromycin cure the Covid-19 virus. Idiot! And liar! Advocates never said it cures Covid-19! It works with your blood to stop Covid-19 from robbing your blood of the ability to carry oxygen.

Best if used early on after diagnosed with Covid-19. If used at the late stages, your lungs and other organs are too far gone. Not much can be done at the late stages. If used early, you can most likely recover. Azithromycin aided by zinc treats bacteria feeding on the debris of your dead lung cells, and slows the pneumonia caused by the Covid-19 attack. No one said it kills the Covid-19 virus. Idiot “experts” who don’t research due to their political bent.


4 posted on 04/24/2020 6:02:23 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: roadcat

These IDIOTS have blood on their hands, this IS preventing people from ending up in the hospital and on a vent!! The media has gone full jihad on this medication which tells me it is working AND they don’t want the country to get well again!!!


5 posted on 04/24/2020 6:09:02 PM PDT by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: DannyTN

Not too bad. Discussion of CFR vs IFR was needed - it has been bothering me as well how these have been conflated. But I think he overstates these for CCP virus. If NY’s CFR was really 8%, it was because they were jamming vents into people at the drop of a hat. The last numbers I saw from Raoult were about 4000 patients, about half with HCQ, untreated about 2% CFR and treated about 0.5%. Still worse than the flu, but not as bad as he says.

Also I don’t by his argument about the lockdown helping. Correlation does not imply causation.


6 posted on 04/24/2020 6:11:08 PM PDT by PlateOfShrimp (c)
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To: roadcat

DO NOT even bother debating Danny he has been PUSHING his doom and gloom from day one just ignore him maybe he will just leave and WE can move forward positively!!!


7 posted on 04/24/2020 6:11:42 PM PDT by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: DannyTN

The Left operates on the theory that Americans are too stupid to remember to breathe without regular reminders, let alone take a drug at the recommended dosage. Vaccines are deemed safer by progressives - the doctor decides how much to give.


8 posted on 04/24/2020 6:15:35 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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To: roadcat

This “expert” said it’s a lie that Hydroxychloroquine and Azithromycin cure the Covid-19 virus. >>> logical fallacy straw man.


9 posted on 04/24/2020 6:27:54 PM PDT by kvanbrunt2 (spooks won on day 76)
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To: DannyTN

Brigham and Women’s Hospital did that.

New covid cases in staff were 12 to 14 a day and rising. Now with universal masking it’s down to 6 a day and steady, even though cases are rising in Boston.

Note not all staff are necessarily infected at work.

Masks save lives.


10 posted on 04/24/2020 6:32:06 PM PDT by heartwood (Someone has to play devil's advocate.)
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To: DannyTN

Danny, you mommy is calling you upstairs for dinner!


11 posted on 04/24/2020 6:53:01 PM PDT by norcal joe
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To: sauropod

Review


12 posted on 04/24/2020 6:55:09 PM PDT by sauropod (Pelosi Galore: We know she's lying when we see her dentures flying. Have some cake, Peasant!)
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To: Trump Girl Kit Cat

So why are you in this thread casting shade on him?

Is that how we move forward positively?

Don’t think so.

Hypocrite much?


13 posted on 04/24/2020 7:14:26 PM PDT by chris37 (China's Gift wasn't born in a bowl of bat soup.)
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To: norcal joe

How about you leave him alone and stop mocking your fellow Americans in during a national crisis.

Does it make you feel good to pick on people who aren’t as strong as you?


14 posted on 04/24/2020 7:16:03 PM PDT by chris37 (China's Gift wasn't born in a bowl of bat soup.)
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To: chris37

Frankly all of this doom and gloom is just exactly what the media is spreading every damn day we don’t need it here PERIOD, the doom and gloom is a completely FALSE narrative!!!


15 posted on 04/24/2020 7:18:36 PM PDT by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: Trump Girl Kit Cat

You don’t have to watch or listen to the media, and you don’t have to read Danny’s threads either.

If Danny wants to talk about the virus with people who want to talk about the virus, then let him.

There are people who are definitely fearful of the virus, and they are going to talk about the virus, and you trying to stop them is really kind of asinine.

If you don’t want to talk about it, then don’t.

The economy is about to reopen. Be happy. Things could be worse.


16 posted on 04/24/2020 7:28:16 PM PDT by chris37 (China's Gift wasn't born in a bowl of bat soup.)
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To: chris37

You’re just as bad.


17 posted on 04/24/2020 9:36:05 PM PDT by norcal joe
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To: norcal joe

Am I?

How exactly am I just as bad?


18 posted on 04/24/2020 9:45:32 PM PDT by chris37 (China's Gift wasn't born in a bowl of bat soup.)
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To: DannyTN
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19 posted on 04/24/2020 9:46:46 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: DannyTN

Thanks for your notes, Danny. I usually watch his PeakProsperity post most nights. He usually makes good sense. Again, thanks!


20 posted on 04/24/2020 10:30:04 PM PDT by dixjea
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