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Combating COVID-19 with Data
Townhall.com ^ | April 24, 2020 | Lawrence Meyers

Posted on 04/24/2020 9:54:58 AM PDT by Kaslin

When the COVID-19 crisis began, it induced panic because of a lack of information about the disease and how deadly it was. Since then, data has been collected while much of the country has remained in lockdown.

That data now appears to support the case that the worst is past us and it is time to re-open America.

A huge national contingent of people make a vague claim that the lockdown "saves lives" yet never quantify it. So let’s do that.

Using data from the LA County Department of Health and the NY City Health Department, the odds of catching the virus appear extremely low in most major metro areas, and the chances of dying from it are significantly less for those aged 65 and younger.

The population of LA County is 10 million. There are 16,500 confirmed cases, or 0.165%, and 729 deaths, or a 4.4% mortality rate.

Anyone thus has a 0.165% chance of having the virus.

In order for an individual to contract the virus that results in symptoms, they must:

1) Come within 6 feet of someone who 2) Has the virus, and 3) Actually transmits it to you, and 4) It becomes symptomatic

Since we begin with 0.165% even having it, and the probability drops even lower with each step above, the probability of contraction has dropped to an absurdly low level such that keeping the entire population in quarantine seems unnecessary.

When we then factor in the mortality rate of 4.4%, the total population of LA County that has died as a direct result of the virus is 729 -- which is 0.007% of the county population.

Seventy-five percent of that are people aged 65 and older, who can remain quarantined as they are at higher risk, and not out and about nearly as much as younger folk anyway.

Thus, the deaths in the general population in LA County is 185, bringing the mortality rate of the general population to a whopping 0.0018%.

To make comparisons, 847 people died in car accidents in LA county in 2017, and 2 million were injured.

Who would like to suggest that we ban cars?

Logically, the data makes sense. Why continue the quarantine if the incubation period -- known to be approximately 14 days -- has now long been passed? If someone has obeyed the quarantine, why are they staying in when they know they don't have the virus and risk is as low as the math suggests?

Next, how can anyone advocate for any policy in an absence of data? The inference the “Lockdown Forever” people make is apparently that one life is too many to lose. Do they want the lockdown to continue so that zero lives are lost to the virus?

Then why not put everyone on permanent house arrest to prevent all the other ways people die if saving lives is all that matters…and take away sharp objects while we’re at it?

One might logically assume that Lockdown Forever people don’t actually think the number isn't actually zero, although never underestimate a non-thinker.

So what is the number that would make them happy?

Let's look at 2017-2018 US flu data:

Cases: 45,000,000 Deaths: 61,099

If Lockdown Forever’s claim is that we have to "save lives", then why aren't we locking everything down every year to save 61,099 lives from regular flu and the 45 MILLION from catching it? We'd save lives EVERY SINGLE YEAR.

Should we assume that since they’ve never advocated for a lockdown each flu season, then 61,099 is an acceptable number?

Likewise, since the CDC has a 95% certainty range that goes up to 96,000. So isn’t this is an acceptable number as well?

You see where I'm going with this.

If Lockdown Forever doesn't quantify the number of lives to "save", then the insistence on saving lives has no parameters on which it can be judged and therefore be balanced with all other concerns.

Speaking of other concerns, here's a study of binge-drinking during the Great Recession:

"There was in the prevalence of frequent binging, from 4.8% in 2006–2007 to 5.1% in 2008–2009 (P < 0.01), corresponding to 770,000 more frequent bingers (95% CI 390,000 to 1.1 million). Non-Black, unmarried men under 30 years, who recently became unemployed, were at highest risk for frequent binging."

Maybe we save an unnamed number of lives, but how many will get lost to alcoholism, drug addiction, domestic violence, and suicide as a result of being unemployed?

Let’s start combating COVID-19 with data.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: becauseyouarestupid; coronavirus; data; pandalovesflubros

1 posted on 04/24/2020 9:54:59 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Yep.

But quarantine liberal hell holes like NYC, Detroit.


2 posted on 04/24/2020 10:00:43 AM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: Kaslin

>> Who would like to suggest that we ban cars?

Plenty of Green extremists.


3 posted on 04/24/2020 10:05:50 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Kaslin

No, it did not induce panic due to a lack of information and many people never panicked.


4 posted on 04/24/2020 10:06:00 AM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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To: Kaslin

I live in Kentucky. I’ve been telling everybody here for over a week that the morbidity rate here is 0.002%. It’s stupid to worry that you might get this and die. It’s hypochondria is what it is.

Snap out of it, folks.


5 posted on 04/24/2020 10:07:33 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The political war playing out in every country now: Globalists vs Nationalists)
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To: Kaslin

6 posted on 04/24/2020 10:18:09 AM PDT by real saxophonist (If you don't have a gun, sell some toilet paper, and go buy a gun. - Colion Noir)
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To: cuban leaf
I live in Kentucky. I’ve been telling everybody here for over a week that the morbidity rate here is 0.002%. It’s stupid to worry that you might get this and die. It’s hypochondria is what it is.

If the lockdown is stopped, how are the DemocRATS going to win in November?

Did you ever notice that in 2008 when the RATS were trying to flip the White House to Hussein's RAT party, that we had a financial meltdown?

The RATS would kill your mother and all your children to flip the White House this year. But they only really need to flip the Senate and keep the House.

We must have Democrat Governors stop this reckless opening of businesses. It is their last hope to save the US from Trump in 2020.

Fauci, of course, is a radical leftist DemonRAT.


7 posted on 04/24/2020 10:40:46 AM PDT by politicianslie (GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEMOCRATS)
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To: Kaslin

Garbage in, garbage out.


8 posted on 04/24/2020 11:07:27 AM PDT by Parmy
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To: Kaslin

In before the screaming guy with graphs tells us we’re all stupid for comparing # of flu deaths with # of Covid deaths, even though they are about the same. But can’t tell us why, in a simple sentence.


9 posted on 04/24/2020 11:11:41 AM PDT by Basket_of_Deplorables (Unredact the 99 Collyer Report!!!)
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To: Kaslin

The title article’s contraction rates and mortality rates come from surveys of populations which have been in lockdown for five weeks. The author concludes that COVID-19 is not dangerous to an unmitigated population based on data from a mitigated population. ....false equivalents.


10 posted on 04/24/2020 11:37:25 AM PDT by nagant
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