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To: motoman

Regarding the French hospital site, can you translate and interpret the following:

1. The heading for the 91k tests: Is it total tests the hospital has given?

2. The heading for the 36k tests: Is that total patients tested?

3. The heading for the 4.5k tests: Is that total patients with Covid-19?

And then, do you know if the 3000 treated with HCQ/zithro and the 12 deaths are included in the total hospital numbers? If so, that would mean they’re treating 65.5% of their Covid patients with HCQ and getting only 12% of the deaths. And it would also mean that only 12/2999 = 0.4% are dying of the treated patients whereas 88/(4579-2999) = 88/1580 = 5.6% of the untreated are dying. But I don’t know if the 4,579 includes the 2,999?

Comparing the two numbers isn’t quite fair though, because some patients are probably in such bad shape on arrival that they can’t get 3 days of the drug combo into them. And then you also don’t know the final outcome of the 2,999 patients yet. They need to start posting some recovery numbers too for this to have much meaning.


52 posted on 04/21/2020 9:59:01 AM PDT by Norseman (Defund the Left....completely!)
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To: Norseman

Regarding the French hospital site, can you translate and interpret the following:

“1. The heading for the 91k tests: Is it total tests the hospital has given?”

Yes - IHU Méditerranée Infection/AP-HM total tests performed

“2. The heading for the 36k tests: Is that total patients tested?”

Yes - IHU Méditerranée Infection/AP-HM patients tested

“3. The heading for the 4.5k tests: Is that total patients with Covid-19?”

Yes - IHU Méditerranée Infection/AP-HM patients tested positive for Covid-19

“And then, do you know if the 3000 treated with HCQ/zithro and the 12 deaths are included in the total hospital numbers? If so, that would mean they’re treating 65.5% of their Covid patients with HCQ and getting only 12% of the deaths. And it would also mean that only 12/2999 = 0.4% are dying of the treated patients whereas 88/(4579-2999) = 88/1580 = 5.6% of the untreated are dying. But I don’t know if the 4,579 includes the 2,999?”

The 2999 are a unique population treated with HCQ+AZ. Not totally sure how the fit into the larger group of 4579. Either way you interpret this, the untreated group mortality is an order magnitude higher than the group treated with HCQ+AZ

“Comparing the two numbers isn’t quite fair though, because some patients are probably in such bad shape on arrival that they can’t get 3 days of the drug combo into them. And then you also don’t know the final outcome of the 2,999 patients yet. They need to start posting some recovery numbers too for this to have much meaning.”

This data has been updated daily since late February. The majority is considered mature for at least the last 10 days.

Compare this same/similar population of 3000 people to any other region/hospital system with the only difference being the standard WHO treatment protocol without HCQ+AZ. The mortality rate will be similar to the 4579 group - an order magnitude higher.

Dr. Didier Raoult results are very difficult to refute - HCQ+AZ significantly reduces the viral shedding duration, averts intubation in the majority of cases, and saves lives.

Similar results are being reported in pockets of the US where adequate participation of patients exists for similar clinical data collection. However, where used, only a portion of these doctors are administering the treatment prior to the beginnings of ARDS. At this point, doctors then have to deal with organ failure which is beyond the capability of this drug cocktail.

The treatment appears to be massively politicized. South Korea has since made it standard and has significantly dropped their mortality rate since doing so. The misinformation about this treatment is very unfortunate.

Not sure it would ever be a uniform standard treatment in the US, but we can absolutely do better than the current mortality rate, especially in NYC where it was limited to only 4000 patients.


76 posted on 04/21/2020 12:18:53 PM PDT by motoman (")
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