Posted on 04/19/2020 7:24:36 PM PDT by TaxPayer2000
In all honesty, the people that showed up were on the high end of things age-wise. There most certainly were younger folks there. I even saw more than a few babies accompanying mommies and daddies.
It wasn’t full sunlight all the time. There were a few clouds, but it was pleasant...a nice Spring day.
I know I exposed myself (if there were any there who were indeed infected), so I suppose I’ll find out in a few days.
That's the beauty of actual freedom. If we still had some of that, you'd be free to hide under your bed with a pacifier, while the rest of us could get on with our lives. Sadly, our overbearing government doesn't actually believe in the concept of liberty or freedom at all. This whole mess has proven this beyond a shadow of a doubt.
Well...considering that the Demonrats are pushing hard to go all mail-in ballots for the entire country, the chances of voter fraud would go from quite likely to almost certain.
As for the state of Washington itself...Considering that Inslee is going up for re-election, we'd better put forward a really good candidate, and even then it may be a moot point. All one has to do is look back to the election of 2004 when we elected a Republican governor...but vote fraud in ONE COUNTY (rhymes with "King"), and numerous re-counts, resulted in a Demonrat governor...,and back then we did NOT have all-mail voting like our state does now.
Of the 39 counties in Washington state, we here in the state know that the elections are essentially run by just THREE counties, all of them on the west side of the Cascades. They have the highest populations, and they are utterly chock-full of brain-dead liberals who will vote exactly as they're told to by their 'betters'.
So, we can direct our energies as hard as we want to elect who we want, but unless things change (and I really hate to say this), it may not matter.
Not sure I understand your point...please elaborate.
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If your first contact has minimal viral load and you have a normal immune system you will develop antibodies before you even develop any symptoms. If you are old and/or have a compromised immune system and you share an enclosed space like an elevator or subway car with a bunch of sick people and you are exposed to a large amount of viral particles... it might kill you.
These people were protesting outside in the open so the chance of getting much viral load was very minimal. Studies using antibody tests are now showing that 50 to 80 times more people have already been exposed than what the standard tests that the government models are based on have indicated. This means that “Covid 19” 50 to 80 times less lethal than projected. This means that "Covid 19" is likely less lethal than many flu variants. It also explains why in the eastern part of King County this thing peaked weeks ago. Our hospital ICUs had already cleared out by the time the “stay at home order” went into effect. The question here was not whether you had been exposed but when.
We have half a million Chinese living in our community and many were taking direct flights to SeaTac after it became a problem there in December. It would be silly to assume that it was not already spreading here at that time. Even after the direct flights were ended at the end of January people just diverted to Vancouver International and drove or took the bus down here.
Not hiding under any beds and there are no laws keeping me from going out.
Is Stage 4 TDS considered an underlying morbidity?
We live in eastern King County; we had the first deaths in the country at a facility that my wife and I have both been to frequently. Three weeks ago on the fire department that I retired from 11 people tested positive. Only 1 developed any symptoms. He thought that they were from his seasonal allergies. They now all test negative. If they were not firefighters none of them would have been able to get a test.
If your first contact has minimal viral load and you have a normal immune system you will develop antibodies before you even develop any symptoms. If you are old and/or have a compromised immune system and you share an enclosed space like an elevator or subway car with a bunch of sick people and you are exposed to a large amount of viral particles... it might kill you.
These people were protesting outside in the open so the chance of getting much viral load was very minimal. Studies using antibody tests are now showing that 50 to 80 times more people have already been exposed than what the standard tests that the government models are based on have indicated. This means that “Covid 19” 50 to 80 times less lethal than projected. This means that "Covid 19" is likely less lethal than many flu variants. It also explains why in the eastern part of King County this thing peaked weeks ago. Our hospital ICUs had already cleared out by the time the “stay at home order” went into effect. The question here was not whether you had been exposed but when.
We have half a million Chinese living in our community and many were taking direct flights to SeaTac after it became a problem there in December. It would be silly to assume that it was not already spreading here at that time. Even after the direct flights were ended at the end of January people just diverted to Vancouver International and drove or took the bus down here.
This squares with an update from WA by a guy who spent years doing ESL instruction in China, and learned both Mandarin (although presumably not the mutually-unintelligible provincial languages) and a fair amount about China:
You’re in Washington state, right? I’d be willing to bet you we’ve already had hundreds of thousands of infections.
I’m in Whatcom county, and we have nearly thirty dead and close to 300 confirmed infected so far. Social distancing is a joke here — nobody’s really practicing it. Neither the old farmers from Lynden nor the young students at Western are wearing masks at the stores, in the parks, wherever. Yet the virus has been here for at least six weeks, but probably a month longer. Based on these antibody studies coming out, we’ve probably had at least 20,000 infections already out of 200,000 people.
And even if this lockdown has had some effect, it will be short-lived. It’s already over. People are out and about, traffic is nearly back to normal, and furloughed people are most definitely congregating and socially interacting. If the virus comes back with a vengeance, then maybe I’ll grant your point, but I don’t see that happening given the current situation. Ultimately, I think Whatcom county is going to end up with up to half of the population infected and around 50-100 counted as dead from this virus. Maybe 200 if we’re unlucky, but I doubt it, because I think this already went through here in February and they didn’t count those deaths as coronavirus.
It might be different in Seattle, where you have more social comorbidities, but I doubt it. There are tons of illegal immigrants from Hubei here in Washington, so we’ve had this infection from the beginning. Hell, the ladies running the nail salon in the local strip mall are from Hubei even up here in B-ham. We have now had this virus in WA for at least three months. One month only of half-assed lockdown, before which the disease was doubling every three days. So before lockdown 60 days of unmitigated spread. What’s 2 to the 20th power? It’s over a million, which is just about what the antibody studies are suggesting for WA.
So there you have it: the reason the deaths are strangely low on the west coast is that it spread here early and killed off many of the vulnerable before they had the opportunity to classify them as coronavirus deaths, and we’re not going to have another high peak because a lot of people have already cleared the infection and are now immune.
If what the guy says is a reflection of overall reality, while the initial numbers in China may be fake, the recent fairly uneventful reports on China even from Radio Free Asia (i.e. no further reports of 24-hour-crematorium operations running for weeks on end) may be accurate - the bug might have self-attenuated after months of seeming to burn out of control.
50% have likely already had the virus and had mild one or two day symptoms, or maybe no symptoms at all.
They went to the protest voluntarily, knowing the risks. People die all the time from a number of causes, and in fact every life starts with a death sentence at the end of it. Being out of work and out of money is more hazardous to your health than Covid-19. The former causes suicide, death by violence and drug addiction in the young. The latter only sometimes causes death in the old and in frontline workers, and precious little of it in rural areas. So your question is foolish and inappropriate.
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As of yet, there has been no actual antibody study that shows that 50-80 times as many people have been infected as the number of cases actually shows. The study by the Stanford researchers that is being touted as proof does nothing of the sort. Their positive results among the population can be attributed to a number of facts, one being that the antibody test itself has an error rate close to the number of positives they found. To clarify, in one Chinese study, the antibody test was found to have a 1.4% error rate, but the Stanford researchers found a 1.5% prevalence rate--right there in the margin of error. And then they took that 1.5% rate (within the margin of error) and plugged it in to various models to come up with rates of 2.49%, 4.16%, and 2.75% (not really sound science going on there).
I know that right now, there is a strong push on this narrative that Covid-19 has already infected so many people that we don't need quarantines and are already developing herd immunity. I get it, no one likes the quarantine. But that narrative is flawed. If Covid-19 were really so infectious that the majority of the population has already caught it in defiance of mathematics and biology, then achieving herd immunity is impossible. Layman's description of the relationship between communicability and herd immunity.
Maybe you should, because the death rate for some of the crazes of the past is sky high, whereas this is a piker. Get Ebola...guaranteed death. Get Yellow Fever...guaranteed death. Bird Flu...much more dangerous than this.
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